Over the next 10 days I will let the consumer decide what transdermal Dermabolics comes out with next. You can look at our full list of ingredient and mix/match to create your own. Whichever one is voted most popular (a vote will take place after 7 days), will become the next product that is released. Assume the maximum amount of gramage per bottle is 7g.


Here are a list of items:

1,4 Andro Powder
1,4 Androdiol Power
1-Testosterone Cypionate Powder
1-Testosterone Powder
19-Nor Powder
19-Nordiol Cypionate Powder
3-Alpha Powder
3-Beta Powder
4-AD Cypionate Powder
4-AD Powder
4-OH-Testosterone Powder
7-OXO-DHEA Powder
Acetyl-L-Carnitine Powder
Androstenetrione Powder (6oxo)
Caffeine Anhydrous
DHEA Powder
DMAE Powder
Formestane Powder
Green Tea Powder
Guggulsterone Powder
Taurine Powder
Vitamin B-5 300

Is this assuming that the carrier will be changed if a more hydrophilic ingredient is chosen (such as caffeine)?

Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here are my thoughts on the possibilities....

ALCAR, caffeine, guggulsterones: Oral bioavailability is high enough as is
Taurine, B5, green tea: Not sure about these ones, but I don't really see a reason to go transdermal, considering the low price
DHEA, DMAE: I don't think these supplements are worth taking to begin with
Cypionates: Doubt they would have an advantage... assuming they are absorbed, longer half-life perhaps?
1,4-andros: I think this is an interesting possibility.. supposed to have high oral bioavailability, but people still seem to need high doses for an effect. I don't think anyone has tried this.
3-alpha/3-beta: I think these are better off in short acting formulas for pre-workout. I'm not too big on the DHT precursors.
4-OHT: Not worth the money, compared to other options, IMO
7-keto: Already has excellent feedback, for fat loss and post-cycle
6-OXO: Already has good feedback as well

My vote would be for one of these...

-7 g 7-OXO-DHEA
-7 g 6-OXO
-3.5 g 7-OXO-DHEA, 3.5 g 6-OXO

Yes, we can always design a new carrier if there is enough demand for a given product.

How about 7-oxo, green tea, yohimbine, alcar. Ill figure out doses later and add them to the post.

Also a formestane, 6-oxo and a small amount of 4-oht may work great as an overall anti e/ anti gyno gel.

How about :

5g 19Nor-diol, 2g 4OHT. Pricey, but low androgenic, decent anabolic. Safety stack?

Or cheap the above up a bit, since we have all that 4OHT and its anti-e properites:

2g 19nor-diol, 2.5g 19nor-dione, 2.5g 4OHT. A cheaper version of the above... ?


4.5G 7OXO, 2.5g 1T - Fatloss but musle retention. Or same but 5:2 ratio.


5g 4AD with 2g 4OHT. You could do a 4AD cycle with added anabolism and not have to worry as much about bloating/gyno. Stack with an oral (1-AD, m-dien, m1t, m1,4add) for kicks!


Do I get a free sample if mine gets picked??

edited out

Bulking

3g 4-AD

2g 1-Testosterone

2g 19-Nor

Cutting

4g 3-Alpha

3g 4-OH-Testosterone

I'm just pulling these out my ass I'm bored, don't flame me hehe

3 g of 6-oxo
3 g of 1-test
1 g of 3-alpha

maybe as a pre-vacation or pre summer hardening stack. Or something to keep lean muscle during heavy dieting?

Based on what I've read (at work, too lazy to go and double check on this), this would make a decent cutting stack-- promoting positive partitioning and raising natural test levels, no?

In any case, with FL-7 out of stock everywhere, I'd love to see another transfermal 7-keto.

I would like to see a nice post cycle recovery transdermal. This is one that I have made and used twice and my friends have all used with great success. Really recover fast and little to no fat gain post cycle. Also It seems to give me a feeling of well being that I normaly dont get after a strong ph/ps cycle (but then maybe it's just me).

3,6,17-androstenetrione 2.5 g = 16.67mg/pump and 66.68mg/4 pumps
7-OXO-DHEA 3.75 g = 25mg/pump and 100mg/4 pumps
Yohimbine .75 g = 5mg/pump and 20mg/ 4 pumps

Use this twice per day at 4 pumps per application.

how about

overall
1-Testosterone Cypionate or 1-Testosterone
1,4 Andro Powder, dione instead of diol
4-AD Cypionate or 4-AD

bulking
1,4 Andro Powder, dione instead of diol
4-AD Cypionate or 4-AD

I think this one is a great idea myself.

I think an "Anabolic Augmentation"-style Transdermal would be pretty damn cool, something like:

3g - 7-OXO-DHEA
3g - 4-OHT

And then-- assuming you could work out the carrier specifics, I don't know if this would even be possible-- make up the difference & go up to the saturation point with Pantothenic Acid.

To be honest, I think this would be a pretty bad-ass formula if you could do it, giving you thyroid optimization, enhanced libido, selective aromatase inhibition, and bolstered anabolism, all while the B-5 is combatting the acne just about everyone experiences when using androgenic AASs/PSs/PHs. I just don't know how you'd deliver the B-5 along with the hormones, but that ain't my job-- I just recommend the stuff!!!

I like the 6-OXO + 7 oxo dhea idea for PC

You could actually go both ways with it, 6-oxo and 7-oxo PCT and you could use 7-oxo and formestane for cortisol and estrogen control while on cycle. I dont know if ALCAR will go through the skin easily or not but you could add that as well, although you wouldnt be able to use it at night.

7-oxo,yohimbine,alcar

I'm liking the Systenhance 1test 4ad mix, add some caffiene to counteract the immediate lethargy and you've got a winner

What is 3,6,17-androstenetrione, I don't see that in the list?

I think a good post recovery trans would be awesome. The anti-e is good during a cycle but post cycle with 6oxo and some others for restarting natural test production. I think the Yohimbine would limit this for many people and you could not take it at night if it was in a prohormone transdermal that is designed to go into the blood.

3,6,17-androstenetrione = antrostenetrione = 6-OXO

I agree, about the yohimbine transdermal - it could only be used in the morning

I see no need for yohimbine in a PC dermal, 6-OXO and 7 OXO DHEA is fine