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| Saber41194 |
Posted: Oct 13 2004, 04:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 428 Member No.: 41194 Joined: 30-August 04 |
and do u feel tired after effect were off ? EDIT: hope it doesnt just contains heart arousing copounds . and it will be as efficient as body octane |
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| MANB2P.COM |
Posted: Oct 13 2004, 04:47 PM
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In its category, Scorch is every bit as effective as BodyOctane. If not, more so. Here is the supplement facts list: Serving Size: 2 Capsules Servings Per Container: 84 Amount Per Serving: Caffeine USP: 200mg Lean Green™ Green Tea SE (90% Catechins, 60% EGCG): 200mg Total EGCG Per Serving: 120mg P2™ Oolong Tea SE (30% Polymerized Pollyphenols, 10% EGCG): 200mg Total Polymerized Polyphenols, 10% EGCG): 60mg Total EGCG Per Serving: 20mg Rhodiola Rosea (4% rosavins): 100mg Olive Leaf Extract (20% Oleuropeins): 100mg 7-oxo-DHEA: 75mg Coleus Forskholii Leaves SE (40% Forskolin): 50mg Tyramine HCl 99%: 50mg At the daily max dosing recommendations you get 420mg of EGCG's, 180mg of polymerized polyphenols, 60mg of Forskolin, 150mg of Tyramine, 225mg of 7-oxo, and more.... -------------------- Joey Rodrigues (aka J-Rod)
Owner/Founder [MLINK=104]MAN[/MLINK] Sports Products Inc. www.manb2p.com Questions or Comments? Email: joey@manb2p.com Toll-free: 866-320-5569 |
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| Saber41194 |
Posted: Oct 14 2004, 01:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 428 Member No.: 41194 Joined: 30-August 04 |
it is realy wize to add EGCG is the most potent antioxidant to the formula. especialy when it commes from green tea. this a nice product. I was lokking for a product like this. that has all the litle extra to suport thermo effect |
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| UnknowLuck23 |
Posted: Oct 14 2004, 02:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Member No.: 2607 Joined: 15-March 03 |
How does it compare to Neurostim?
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| MANB2P.COM |
Posted: Oct 15 2004, 09:43 PM
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![]() Group: MAN Posts: 130 Member No.: 23329 Joined: 2-April 04 |
It doesn't. But the two stacked together would and do make the ultimate feel good preworkout boost around. I stack the two products before my workouts, and the stack is great. -------------------- Joey Rodrigues (aka J-Rod)
Owner/Founder [MLINK=104]MAN[/MLINK] Sports Products Inc. www.manb2p.com Questions or Comments? Email: joey@manb2p.com Toll-free: 866-320-5569 |
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| Saber41194 |
Posted: Oct 16 2004, 09:45 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 428 Member No.: 41194 Joined: 30-August 04 |
my 2cents : add L-Phenylalanine to the stack : good for fat lose and mood. use it with ur daily vits/fatty acids.
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| earthdog |
Posted: Oct 16 2004, 11:51 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Member No.: 36914 Joined: 25-July 04 |
I asked a well-know supplement manufacturer who is known for his honesty, but expecially for his innovative and effective products (he basically invented a whole genre of supplements) what he thought about Scorch, and his exact words were, "I have never tried scorch. I see what the ingredients are and they are good basic tried and true ingredients." I also saw a post from Mike (1fast400 Mike) somewhere else, I think maybe it was bodybuilding.com, and he said he thought that Scorch will be the best fat burner on the market, and he made a point to say that he doesn't endorse many products, so that should tell you something about Scorch. I have a bottle on the way, so I'll post my results soon.
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| earthdog |
Posted: Oct 16 2004, 11:56 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Member No.: 36914 Joined: 25-July 04 |
Man2P, are you familiar with Avant's Leptigen Rebirth and Sesathin? Will Scorch stack well with them for fat loss? Also, can you compare Scorch against Xenadrine EFX (the "improved" one without synephrine)? I'm currently taking Xenadrine EFX along with the above Avant products and I wonder how much replacing Xenadrine with Scorch will improve the stack. My main objective is fat loss while retaining muscle. I have a bottle of Scorch on the way and I'm looking forward to trying it.
- Earthdog |
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| earthdog |
Posted: Oct 17 2004, 05:32 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Member No.: 36914 Joined: 25-July 04 |
er... bump?
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| David34904 |
Posted: Oct 18 2004, 06:18 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Member No.: 34904 Joined: 8-July 04 |
Just take a look at the supplment facts and you will see that you cannot put these two products in the same league. Scorch is the anti-xenadrine. Read up on the ingredients on the articles page of this site. David Tolson has some great articles. More importantly, look at the dosages Scorch gives you. IMO this is the best product available for fat loss. |
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| MANB2P.COM |
Posted: Oct 18 2004, 02:56 PM
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![]() Group: MAN Posts: 130 Member No.: 23329 Joined: 2-April 04 |
I like the theory behind the Leptigen Series. This is something I have been doing for years...although, I never was intentially trying to modulate Leptin. I just used to slam mega doses of BCAA's, Creatine and Vitamin, Minerals and Antioxidants to do the same thing...feed my body, but keep my calories low so I could get ultra lean. So yes, I do think that Leptigen and Sesathin would be a nice adjunct to Scorch. In regards to how it compares to Xenadrine, do as the other poster suggests and compare the ingredients. If you have any other questions, let me know. I look forward to your feed back on the product. -------------------- Joey Rodrigues (aka J-Rod)
Owner/Founder [MLINK=104]MAN[/MLINK] Sports Products Inc. www.manb2p.com Questions or Comments? Email: joey@manb2p.com Toll-free: 866-320-5569 |
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| halebop |
Posted: Oct 19 2004, 02:02 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 112 Member No.: 3500 Joined: 2-May 03 |
what is the suggested doseage? (trying to see how long a bottle will last)
thanks! |
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| MANB2P.COM |
Posted: Oct 19 2004, 02:28 PM
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![]() Group: MAN Posts: 130 Member No.: 23329 Joined: 2-April 04 |
The suggested dose is 4 to 6 caps daily. At 6 caps a day you really get everything you need to burn fat at the right doses. This will last you 28 days. I do suggest starting with 1 cap, two to three times daily to access your tolerance. There is a pretty nice stimulatory effect from the product - so find out what your tolerance threshold is first before jumping right in there at the max dosing. -------------------- Joey Rodrigues (aka J-Rod)
Owner/Founder [MLINK=104]MAN[/MLINK] Sports Products Inc. www.manb2p.com Questions or Comments? Email: joey@manb2p.com Toll-free: 866-320-5569 |
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| earthdog |
Posted: Oct 19 2004, 08:42 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Member No.: 36914 Joined: 25-July 04 |
I looked at the ingredients and I read the relevant articles on this site. Sounds great! I just started taking it today. My first impression with it, compared to Xenadrine EFX is that it is actually THERMOGENIC - I felt very warm all day and sweat a lot. Kind of like ephedrine. ;-) Anyway, thanks for the info and I will keep you posted on the results. I took measurments this morning (skinfold, weight and waist size) so hopefully I'll have something good to report soon. If I do, I'll start another thread with my results. - Earthdog |
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| MANB2P.COM |
Posted: Oct 20 2004, 02:09 PM
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![]() Group: MAN Posts: 130 Member No.: 23329 Joined: 2-April 04 |
Thanks for the feedback. That is pretty much in line with what other have reported. BTW, how is the energy boost from it. Most people, myself included, describe it as a noticeable, but clean stimulatory effect with better focus. How about you? -------------------- Joey Rodrigues (aka J-Rod)
Owner/Founder [MLINK=104]MAN[/MLINK] Sports Products Inc. www.manb2p.com Questions or Comments? Email: joey@manb2p.com Toll-free: 866-320-5569 |
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| WardrobeMalfunction |
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Today was my first day taking Scorch. The stuff is Strong. It's the strongest non-ephedra fat burner I've ever used. Took 2 in the morning. Woke me right up. Felt warm all day. Only could take 1 after lunch. Recommending Starting at the low end of the rate. It should be a good product.
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| Uberdude |
Posted: Oct 23 2004, 02:08 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Member No.: 1129 Joined: 5-December 02 |
Does stacking it with Guggulbolic Extreme helps? What will be an ideal supplement to stack Scorch with?
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| David19562 |
Posted: Oct 23 2004, 08:13 AM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 296 Member No.: 19562 Joined: 1-March 04 |
If you would care to discuss details, I'm wondering why you included 7oxo in there? I know what its effects are, but in that dosage taken orally you don't get very much of it into the bloodstream. Does it work synergistically with some of the other compounds in scorch?
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| MANB2P.COM |
Posted: Oct 23 2004, 10:02 AM
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![]() Group: MAN Posts: 130 Member No.: 23329 Joined: 2-April 04 |
The doses of 7-oxo posted are per serving. For best results Scorch should be taken 3 times daily. That will give you 225mg of 7-oxo per day, 200mg is pretty much the minimum IMHO you need orally for 7-oxo in order for it to produce the desired physiological effects. That formula is designed to have effective doses of each and every compound at the recommended use. That really is the beauty of Scorch. No other product contains so many supporting compounds and the right doses in order for them to produce results. We could of just whipped up the same compounds and put it in a proprietary blend and told you to "trust us" the product works and there is plenty of everything. We put it all on the label, geniune compounds, effective doses, at a fair price to produce a result-driven product. Guggulbolic extreme I would save for post Scorch and I would opt for Ergolean MC as it is a more potent formula. You may want to take advantage of the Scorch and Syneburn stack and possibly kick in some YO, if you can tolerate its systemic effects. Other than that Scorch is effective as a stand-alone, but we will be releasing a product called ON-FIRE that you would be able to use in conjunction with Scorch. -------------------- Joey Rodrigues (aka J-Rod)
Owner/Founder [MLINK=104]MAN[/MLINK] Sports Products Inc. www.manb2p.com Questions or Comments? Email: joey@manb2p.com Toll-free: 866-320-5569 |
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| Max32 |
Posted: Oct 23 2004, 05:42 PM
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![]() Patrick Bateman is my Hero Group: Moderators Posts: 1193 Member No.: 2834 Joined: 28-March 03 |
my vote goes with sesathin -------------------- "Lets put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner!"
Joe Kane, THE PROGRAM "Getting the pump is like cumming with woman!" Arnold, PUMPING IRON ![]() Max32 is an imaginary character. Any information regarding AAS is for fictional purposes only. He does not use AAS and he does not know how to obtain them, nor does he condone their use. |
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