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Posted by: biggun Mar 9 2004, 04:35 PM

[MANID]98[/MANID] M1T is the best legal prohormone that I have taken. I'm 6'2 270 lbs. I've gained 9 lbs in three weeks. I've went from 365 to 385 on the bench. Just missed 405. I ate about the same, but if I missed a meal I got the shakes and light headed. Sex drive went down. On my next cycle I'll take a testosterone enhancer. T-bomb, Mag-10 aren't worth the money. Can't wait for the next cycle.

Posted by: weeviekins2000 Mar 9 2004, 09:32 PM

Its not a prohormone buddie. Also some of the weight you gained was water weight and you will not retain all of it.

Posted by: Kow Mar 9 2004, 11:16 PM

weeviekins, what was the point in saying that? Correcting the PH statement is one thing, but why would you tell him that he's not going to keep all his gains like he's trying to brag about it? I don't mean to be a dick, but there's no reason to be rude.

biggun (your name fits you - what's your BF%?), good job on the strength gains. A 20lb. increase on your bench is not shabby at all for 3 weeks. What kind of PCT did you run?

Posted by: shpongled Mar 10 2004, 01:37 PM

I don't think M1T causes much water weight gain.

Posted by: ridebullsdaddy Mar 10 2004, 02:23 PM

Very specifically, assuming everyone is different and gains/losses are dependent on many factors....

What is a "rule of thumb" regarding how much of the gains attained during a prohormone (more specifically M1T & 4AD) cycle can be maintained (i.e. what % of the gains could you reasonably expect to keep)?

Secondly, What is the consensus among the very experienced posting here (the moderators) on the absolute best PCT assuming that prescrips (i.e. Nolva) are not an option?

What I'm seeing on non-prescrip PCT is generally 60X0, a liver detox (milk thistle), Lecitin granules. Am I missing anything? Is there anything considered superior for maintaining gains (again non-prescrip)? Why not 4-hyroxyandrostendione?

I've gone from 208 lbs. on Feb. 25 to 216 lbs on March 9 (15 days) using 30mg of Gaspari NutritionM1T/day (10mg morning, 10mg pre-workout at noon, 10mg 10:30pm). Added SAN A100 4AD (500mg/day in 100mg doses spread out over the day) on March 5 (6 days as of today). I've seen gains before that outwardly appear to be mostly water (i.e. bloated face, etc.) but, honestly during these 15 days I've seen the love handles noticably shrinking, skin looks and feels fairly thin (relatively speaking), muscles are very tight, strength gains have been tremendous (again relative speaking for me). Does not appear, based on my impressions of others I've seen, to be mostly water. Time will tell, but I am certainly not looking or feeling bloated at this point.

Side Effects: Sides are what you make of them. Nothing that a 37yr old beat to crap old clunker isn't used to anyway so I haven't noticed much of anything.

37 yrs old. 5' 9" or 5' 10". BF% unknown...normal? Other Supps incl. Glutamine (25g spread out), Creatine w/ AKG from IDS (4g pre-workout & 4g post-workout), Protien from all sources (food & supp) approx. 275g-300g/day (Optimum Whey and CytoGainer), Clean Carbs from all sources approx. 300g/day, fat intake ? (include 4TBSP of Flaxseed Oil and 1TBSP of Cod Liver Oil per day).

Posted by: Wayner Mar 10 2004, 05:10 PM

I was on M1T for like 20 days increasing every week, I found i didnt gain no water weight, to tell the truth as i told everyone els about it, i lost fat, and gained 7 pounds of muscle, witch if u ask me is a great result.

Also, ill be going back on once i finish my post cycle.

But if you ask me if you do it right and work out right, m1t is unreal.

Posted by: Wayner Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM

Also i forgot to say that my bech went up a ton, somthing like 20 to 30 pounds.

Also on Incline Bench with dumbbell, i went from doing around 60 pounds for sets with 70 being my max for around 8 reps.

But no i can put up max of 90 for 8 reps (i got a full set once) an 80 pounds for sets.

Posted by: biggun Mar 10 2004, 05:19 PM

Hey peeweekin0002, I'm not your buddy. If you would read it says prohormone/ steroid. You have a negative attitude. I bet when you walk in the gym everybody says, "here comes negative boy". M1T is great stuff. You need to try it and develope a winning attitude. I appreciate everybody else's comments. Good job Wayner. Keep up the hard work.

Posted by: weeviekins2000 Mar 10 2004, 08:19 PM

Sorry I'm not trying to be negative. Just trying to be "real". I don't expect miracles from a bottle. I just think M1T has been way over-hyped. I have read of people getting similiar results with S1+ without the danger to the liver.

Posted by: shpongled Mar 11 2004, 01:24 PM

QUOTE (ridebullsdaddy @ Mar 10 2004, 02:23 PM)

As far as pure muscle gains, most if not all, assuming proper PCT. The idea that gains go away after cycles is based on the fact that some steroids cause a lot of water gain that is lost after a cycle. This is not indicative of strength/muscle mass loss.

QUOTE

Secondly, What is the consensus among the very experienced posting here (the moderators) on the absolute best PCT assuming that prescrips (i.e. Nolva) are not an option?

What I'm seeing on non-prescrip PCT is generally 60X0, a liver detox (milk thistle), Lecitin granules. Am I missing anything? Is there anything considered superior for maintaining gains (again non-prescrip)? Why not 4-hyroxyandrostendione?

Assuming legal only, 6-OXO is definitely the best. Formestane converts to an androgen which could further shutdown.

Posted by: 80skid Mar 16 2004, 11:19 AM

I just finished using M1T for 30 days straight at only 5mg/day. I'm 20yrs old, 5'11 171lbs before i started using it and finished at around 185lbs. Now i don't know about you guys but I think thats pretty damn good considering it's very hard for me to put on weight(my metabolism is very high). My bench went up probably 30-40lbs. I was also on NAC, flax seed oil, and took some vit. E during the cycle. Now im off using 6-oxo and still taking NAC, milk thistle, and flax oil. M1T is truely the best bang for your buck when it comes to mass and strength gains.[SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]

Posted by: Julio19677 Apr 7 2004, 10:19 PM

Dude the stuff works wonders (m1T) if you doubt it try it $10 is all you need. You can be neg if you want but you have never used why cry. My gains were huge and trust me creatine put water on you this feeling is not at all close. So dont jump on someones gains because you haven't tried it.

Posted by: hitumout Apr 19 2004, 09:24 PM

I Just got a few questions about M1T. I started taking it today. When I worked out i may have just been hyped but i felt good and my workout was more intense than usual. My main questions are how should I go about taking the M1T(ex. every day, or just on workout days) I only workout Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and what about alcohol consumption? I usually have a few the here and there. If someone can help me out I'd appreciate it.

Posted by: Phill Apr 20 2004, 05:35 AM

1: a little simple reseach before you started would have answered these and more questions in a matter of minutes

2. Recomend not taking it @ all. Take some time to learn about what you are going to take, construct a complete plan, PCT included, then think about taking it.

3. If you are going to stay on, you take it everyday. You grow muscles while you recover not in the gym.

4. Dont drink while on, or while recovering. If you cant leave the alcohol alone for a month or so then dont do the Cycle and continue to drink.

Posted by: hitumout Apr 20 2004, 12:00 PM

thanks Phill,

I did research a little before i started using. It took me about 3 weeks before i decided to get some, i just wondered if there was someone with the same sort of Mon. Wed. Fri. workout routine that could help me out a little. Some of my friends are taking it and i talked to them atleast twice a week to see how they were doing and all i heard was good things. But, i appreciate the advice.

Posted by: Ripped 21 Apr 25 2004, 09:14 PM

FONT=Impact][SIZE=1][COLOR=orange]I am 23 and have been on M1T for 7 days and felt huge gains. Ihave taken so many different things in the past and I mean taken cycle after cycle with other supplements and this M1T is awesome. My muscle pump is much greater than anything before, chest, tris, biceps, legs, shoulders have got leaner and more mass, I am @ 15% b/f and 180 pds, 5'10'' I would suggest that everyone should give it a try but only if your serious about body building...I have a log book I use every workout and have proof about the strength gains and my wife keeps telling me I look much bigger... try it out

Posted by: Ripped 21 Apr 26 2004, 02:11 PM

I just got done working out this morning and I went from 105# 8x to 115 8x DB brench and my Incline DB went from 85# to 95# 8x......and people that is 8 days into this stuff @ 10 mg. a day....everything else I did was up from last week. I am just so excited about it I just wanted everyone to know. The only side effect I have had was a slight headache a few days in a row but it goes away with a couple Alieve...It is all worth it....

Posted by: 80skid Apr 26 2004, 03:11 PM

I'd watch taking the alieve while on M1T. Anything that could possibly put extra strain on your liver should be avoided. I had some headache problems early in the cycle when I took M1T but they went away after a few days. Be sure you're taking stuff for your liver like milk thistle or NAC. Otherwise good luck with your gains.

Posted by: Ripped 21 Apr 26 2004, 07:42 PM

I am taking milk thistle everyday for the last two months because I heard that it is great to take it. I seriously cant believe the gains, I have taken pro-hormones befor but nothing that felt like this...Is it safe to take 20mg for the next 2 1/2 weeks and I was also wondering I take it on none training days I train 5 to 6 days a week but just wondering if I should not take it on those off days as well....

Posted by: TommyD May 12 2004, 01:07 PM

I wanted to post results of my 2 week cycle of M1T and 4ad. I've read through a lot of these posts to gain some knowledge about what I was doing, there is a LOT of info here as well as knowledgeable people, so the homework is very easy if you take some time. I started the 1st week at 5mg M1T and 300 mg 4ad transdermal 2x/d and second at 7.5 and 300 4ad 2x/d along with 125 mg of milk thistle 3x a day for both weeks. I have a very good doctor I can talk to and after the cycle I told him I would like blood work done. My results showed that my enzymes were almost twice my previous time and he scheduled more blood work a week later and I upped my milk thistle to 250 mg 3x a day. I just got my results today and he says they are close to my normal. I'm starting another cycle next week and the doc is already scheduling more blood tests throughout...wot a guy! Make no mistake about it, this stuff is strong. I see people writing about M1T and some serious loads they are taking and some reference to milk thistle and other liver cleansers BUT I see nothing about any blood work to see how the liver has been affected. I made great gains, had great pumps and sometimes a bad attitude.....as well as a distressed liver.
I'm no kid, I'm 47 y/o been weight training more than half my life, 191# and about 10%bf .....and have a few "other" cycles under my belt.

Posted by: wes69 May 16 2004, 04:35 PM

hello i was wondering hy nobody use's clomid everybody seems to go for novladex after a cycle as i'v just ordered some clomid for when i finish my first cycle which i have yet to start

Posted by: James Springer May 17 2004, 02:03 PM

QUOTE (wes69 @ May 16 2004, 04:35 PM)

hello i was wondering hy nobody use's clomid everybody seems to go for novladex after a cycle as i'v just ordered some clomid for when i finish my first cycle which i have yet to start

Clomid makes me an emotional train wreck. That's the biggest reason I prefer Nolva. For really suppressive cycles, HCG+Nolva is very effective without turning into a whiny bitch, LOL.

Posted by: MMC Jun 1 2004, 02:54 PM

I also had a great 3 week cycle with m1t. The only bad side I had was the headache thing as someone else mentioned. I mean bad. Any suggestions to prevent?

Posted by: hardcore1 Jul 24 2004, 05:20 PM

M1T is truly amazing! As far as I am concerned this product should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with prohormones. I stacked this product with Androgel and the results were absolutely friggin profane.My pumps were so incredible I could only knock out 4 reps at a time on bench.On the squats despite extensive stretching, my lower back felt like it was going to explode. I easily gained 3 pounds a week for 6 weeks running.I used the Androgel on the scrotal skin as it is almost 50% absorbed on that site.Any where else forget it the dose is way to small. And I used 10mg week 1, M1T and 30mg a week for the remaining 5 weeks in divided dosages. Great job, this product is one of a kind

Posted by: AcID_ReIN Aug 17 2004, 01:49 AM

I just got a bottle today. I ordered a different supplement by legal gear called methly ohn. Related to deca similar to anavar. Still waiting for that one. I was gonna try to stack the two. Any input on that? Has anyone tried that. or a similar stack?

Posted by: Coggy Aug 25 2004, 11:16 PM

I am getting ready to start taking M1T and i also have Human Growth Complex. I am curious if it would hurt to take them with each other. I have been taking milk thistle for awhile so i am not worried about my liver. I was also wondering though if there was something you could do or take to help insure that it doesnt stunt your growth?

Posted by: steveEray Aug 26 2004, 05:06 AM

Ive been cycleing for going on 4 years now and have tryied everything from bulk to cut cycles,,,,Pro hormones are a new venture for me.
Prob will be going clean due to the testing rumors in my sport. M1T in great stuff and at only $10 a bottle. Thats how i was able to stumble across this board.

I hate negatives because that is what makes you a loser in my book,,,but im
looking around at people who are asking simple questions and getting slammed for it.

Even though i know pretty much everything about every anabolic that is out there as well as been on them IF
i ask a question about a pro hormone which i know nothing about id prob
get slammed for being as smart as you guys

BTW> I did notice a power increase after a couple of days and its the best
chump change ive ever spent,,,also i will be buying about 10 more bottles
before the ban

Posted by: steveEray Aug 26 2004, 05:14 AM

Forgot to add,,,My doseages are 25 to 30mg per day.
Newbies i would stick to 10mg ed. 2 per day. No more than that.
Im running my M1T with deca and am seeing pretty good results for a first time
anabolic and prohormone stack. I would like to find out more on what could be stacked with m1t like winni, anadrol, bdol ect.

Like i said im new to the fake roids

Posted by: TommyD Aug 26 2004, 08:03 AM

steveEray, I read in this thread that you were new to the Forums here. Your response " IF i ask a question about a pro hormone which i know nothing about id prob
get slammed for being as smart as you guys"
really isn't fair to those of us that use this board. On top of the Supplement Forum there is 3 pinned topics all about posting on these boards including an extensive Prohormone/steroid/anti-e FAQ list that goes into great detail about these items. Another is Forum Rules which asks all members to read before posting. Here is a direct reply to your above quote..."5. Before posting, try running a search to see if that answers your question. Also, try looking through our archieve of articles". This is no way a slam on you, if you had been on this board for a while you also would have noticed the same questions asked time after time by people that felt it easier to ask rather than read. THAT is the reason people get, in your words, slammed. Most of the time it is only a quick "run a search" which doesn't seem like much of a slam to me. Coggy's question, to me at least, is one that I haven't seen addressed in the the above Pinned Topics or addressed by those who use this board. I may be wrong, I've only been here sinceMarch. Most of these guys (and gals) are very knowledgeable and happy to help someone out if they have some input.

Posted by: steveEray Aug 26 2004, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (weeviekins2000 @ Mar 9 2004, 09:32 PM)

Its not a prohormone buddie. Also some of the weight you gained was water weight and you will not retain all of it.

This is what im talking about,,,I'll drop it but for someone to have a huge amount of post and should be a knowledgeable person to slam a new guy was wrong.
I know im going off topic but i am a member of another board that does not allow you to step on people. What should of been said is a simple,,read the past post for your answer instead of slamming someone on there progress,,,anyway im dropping it. Its off topic.

FYI> This newbie might be about to bring alot of info to the board,,just what i think,,but im only a newbie. I dont know anything

Posted by: WALTERUGLY Aug 26 2004, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (steveEray @ Aug 26 2004, 01:42 PM)

QUOTE (weeviekins2000 @ Mar 9 2004, 09:32 PM)

Its not a prohormone buddie. Also some of the weight you gained was water weight and you will not retain all of it.

hey newbie....go read the stickys in the supplement forum.

you dont have nothing to offer the board because you dont know shit about prohormones or prosteroids.

juss pulling your chain bro

Posted by: steveEray Aug 26 2004, 04:17 PM

I really need to get off the juice

Posted by: shaf Nov 29 2004, 11:29 PM

Hi, I am new at this forum. I am 22, 162 lbs and dont gain weight very easily. I've tried protein, weight gainers and creatine and dont get good results. I have just ordered this, hopefully i get it (I am in canada) but I had some questions for some people out there. I am prone to acne, does this increase it? I've heard that it doesnt, and I heard that it does. Let me know your experiences, along with any other side effects I may experience? And other than milk thistle should I be taking anything else at the same time. Is anti-estrogen pills useful during or after the cycle? thanks

Posted by: SpiritWalker Nov 30 2004, 12:34 AM

M1T has been known to cause acne in some cases, but it all depends on how YOU react to it. You may not have any kind of problems with acne when you do a cycle, or, some volcanoe sized zits will begin to boil under your skin and explode with white puss...lol. But yes, some people have mentioned acne as a side, especially on back and face.

Posted by: slootster Nov 30 2004, 07:38 AM

I have gotten acne.....in weird places....no...not there you sick bastards....haha.....but really, i got pimples on my biceps and shoulders and never had them in my life until i cycled m1t a couple of times. every time i finish a cycle.....they come back. really weird shit guys. i think i'll lay off when the summer hits......won't be too popular at the beach with this shit. anyone else get them in these places?

Posted by: Yagman Dec 4 2004, 12:30 PM

QUOTE (Ripped 21 @ Apr 25 2004, 09:14 PM)

Just out of curiosity, is this the first prohormone/steroid you've used?

Posted by: ace-turned-joker Dec 6 2004, 07:59 PM

My opinion of M1T is very high. Like most, I've had tremendous gains in short periods of time. Keep in mind, this is after being experienced and while attempting to overcome some pleateus. Great gains are expected when you're relatively new. You can't use that a very good judge of crediblity with regards to supplements. For example, the majority of lifters who are new could expect great gains regardless of supplementation, specifically with M1T in this case. I posted this to clear up the matter. I have around six to six and a half years experience lifting and have pleatued several times. I've always overcame those but at a hefty price. When I firsted started supplementing with M1T, they were overcome in less than two weeks and without a _dramatic_ change in diet or routine. I altered my routine a bit. It was originally four days per week, varying body parts based on the day. When supplementing with anything that increases free testosterone, I assumed that it would be a better idea to decrease the amount of sets per session but increase the number of sessions. ie. from fourteen sets/per body part/per day and four sessions to ten sets/per body part/per day and six sessions. This is because excess free testosterone aids in the recovery process, thus allowing you to "overwork" the muscles compared to your normal routine(s). I'd alternate body parts based on a two-day split routine. For example, on Sunday, I would work chest and shoulders. Monday would be back and legs. Then repeat chest and shoulders on Tuesday, etc. Over a weeks time, that would increase the overall sets/per bodypart/per week from fourteen to thirty. Normally, this would result in overtraining, under most circumstances. Why can you do it and get by with it now? Simply, excess free testosterone. I've cycled as follows: 1st month: M1T and creatine; 2nd month: Tribex(tribulus), creatine, NO2; 3rd month: MT1 and creatine; 4th month: Tribex, creatine, and NO2. In this four month period since trying my first pro-testosterone and pro-hormone supplements, I've gained two inches around my chest, directly under my arm pits. My arms have grown three-quarters of an inch. My estimated one rep max on flat bench with free weights(via one rep max calculators) has increased 55lbs, from 190 to 245. Keep in mind that I'm 5'2" and weigh 115-120lbs, depending on water retention. That's around twice my bodyweight. I don't totally owe the gains to M1T or any supplement for that matter. Proper training, diet, and sleep are still necessary regardless of how many and what supplements you take. However, supplementation can be a _very_ useful aid assuming you have everything else mastered. I wouldn't advice supplementing with anything this powerful while you're still new simply because it isn't necessary. You're most likely going to make great gains even if you never bought a bottle of this. If, however, you've worked very hard over several years to perfect yourself and you still need an extra aid, then I would definitely suggest M1T. On another note, I've never taken anything to help reduce damage to my liver nor have I stopped drinking. I don't do it as often, but I still do it. As of yet, I've had no complaints as far as health issues and side effects are concerned. The only side effects that I did notice is acne(even after a full cycle of Accutane from my dermatologist) and aggresiveness/irritability. So perhaps I've been lucky and haven't experienced anything very negative, like some other users have claimed. That doesn't mean that you won't. As far as that goes, I can just suggest that you try it and note the effects. If it causes any problems that you aren't willing to go through, then stop. On that note, I'm done. I'd like to think that this will help somone who is interested.

Posted by: Derrick52574 Dec 15 2004, 09:00 PM

The First Two weeks on M1T I gained 9lbs and my bench went from 225x10 to 225x18 then I took two weeks off and did another cycle of two weeks and gained another 7lbs. The only thing I didn't like was my blood pressure jump up really high.

Starting Bodyweight 164lbs
End Bodyweight 180lbs

Posted by: Christoph22123 Dec 15 2004, 11:44 PM

How High was your blood pressure? What did you use to combat it? I am just doing S1+ in the beggining I would come back from a workout check my Blood pressure it was 164/96 bpm 101! Started taking Hawthorn berry and celery root. dropped to 99/58 bpm 72-81 bpm still high at times, like it could be 101/65 at 81 bpm.

Posted by: shaf Jan 12 2005, 01:11 AM

Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows why this produce it being discontinued at bodybuilding.com. . .I thought it was pretty new? Do you think taking a 5mg dosage for beginners at prohormones is enough to see results (im only 164lbs)?

thanks

Posted by: elmomonster Jan 12 2005, 09:52 AM

Because it's going to be illegal in a week...
How tall are you? At 164lbs and saying you're a beginner at "prohormones" you need to hold off on using this kind of thing.

Posted by: YelloSpeedR Jan 20 2005, 11:03 PM

did M1t become illegal, is this why its no longer available?

Posted by: AgnosticFront Jan 20 2005, 11:13 PM

lol

Posted by: Speakle Jan 20 2005, 11:23 PM

QUOTE (YelloSpeedR @ Jan 20 2005, 11:03 PM)

did M1t become illegal, is this why its no longer available?

The ban was just on prohormones/prosteroids.

Posted by: ecko3003 Jan 21 2005, 01:02 AM

QUOTE

did M1t become illegal, is this why its no longer available?

too easy

Posted by: shaf Jan 27 2005, 10:50 AM

What brands did you guys have success with? I used the higher power brand and it was crap. Minimal gain in 2 weeks, training hard with a balanced diet.

thanks

Posted by: DTANK Jan 17 2006, 11:25 PM

M1T is definatley the best shit i have tried. I went from weight of 160 to about 187 in a matter of about two months. i went from working out on the bench with 165 to starting with 205 and this is all true. the problem ......

Source requests regarding illegal substances will not be tolerated.

Posted by: Rebel9711 Jan 30 2006, 11:10 PM

Im 17 and ive been on M1t for a good 3 weeks now, Im doing a 2 weeks on 1 week off cycle. Threw the first 2 weeks on i felt stronger and more energetic at the gym, ive gained in everything. My weight has also increased by a good 10 pounds. Ive used other suplements before this and none compare.

Posted by: Gary46080 Jan 31 2006, 12:05 AM

QUOTE (Rebel9711 @ Jan 31 2006, 12:10 AM)

You're retarded.

Posted by: DR X Jan 31 2006, 09:58 AM

QUOTE (Rebel9711 @ Jan 30 2006, 09:10 PM)

Dhoooo

Posted by: Nicholas18644 Jan 31 2006, 11:56 AM

I second what gary said.

FPot66

Posted by: mparson Feb 23 2006, 10:48 PM

I have been on M1T for almost two weeks. I have noticed a dramatic increase in my appetite, pretty frequent nose bleeds, and some mean headaches. If I don't eat every two or three hours, I get kind of woozy, and in a really bad mood. I have been stacking this with DIM and milk thistle. I am adding chrysin, and a test boosting gel for the last two weeks of my cycle. Then, I will follow with a month on tribulus, chrysin, and DIM. Any suggestions or comments are welcome.

Posted by: arrogant Feb 23 2006, 11:00 PM

QUOTE (mparson @ Feb 23 2006, 10:48 PM)

Get your blood pressure checked.

Actually, just stop using it and go back and do some research first.

Posted by: CDONDICI Feb 23 2006, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (mparson @ Feb 23 2006, 10:48 PM)

dim and chrysin arnet strong enough for pct get some rebound or nolva

Posted by: smoothlove Feb 26 2006, 03:02 AM

Why is this thread still alive?

Posted by: DR X Feb 26 2006, 11:07 AM

QUOTE (CDONDICI @ Feb 23 2006, 09:13 PM)

QUOTE (mparson @ Feb 23 2006, 10:48 PM)

dim and chrysin arnet strong enough for pct get some rebound or nolva

I agree, if you don't get some nolva you can plan on losing most of those gains.

At the very lest get some RXT

Posted by: mparson Mar 2 2006, 07:52 PM

I see a lot about nolva, but I have no idea what products contain it. Can you tell me more?

Posted by: Ryan120602 Jun 30 2006, 08:35 PM

No one is posting their PCT.
Which is their main part.

Posted by: tryn2getbig Sep 16 2006, 06:56 AM

Hey all... I am new to this thing so any and all help would be awesome! I am looking to get some infomation on M1T... Like what is the best brand? What should I stack it with? What else do I need to take in order to not kill my liver! Also, I have this guy who told me I dont need anything else besides M1T. Anyones thoughts on this? Like I said, I am really new to the supplement world and dont want to make any mistakes and screw myself up. I am currently taking Gakic, Leukic and Creakic. I haven't seen any major gains with those and am looing into the M1T. Thanks for the help and I look forward to reading your comments!

Regards--

tryn2getbig

Posted by: JOKER 13 Sep 16 2006, 08:40 AM

QUOTE (tryn2getbig @ Sep 16 2006, 06:56 AM)

, I have this guy who told me I dont need anything else besides M1T. Anyones thoughts on this? Like I said, I am really new to the supplement world and dont want to make any mistakes and screw myself up. I am currently taking Gakic, Leukic and Creakic. I haven't seen any major gains with those and am looing into the M1T. Thanks for the help and I look forward to reading your comments!

Regards--

tryn2getbig

There is alot of old treads w/ info on m1t , as far as the guy who said you dont need anything else w/ m1t is an idiot

Posted by: tryn2getbig Sep 16 2006, 09:08 AM

I have been reading through a lot of forums about this but I dont really understand a lot of it! I am having a hard time with some of the abreviations on here like, what is PCT? What is gyno? I have been to several different forums and have asked for help on all of them. Like, why would I take Nolva? Is it something that I would take after the M1T or during? What about 4AD, is that just another anabolic supplement to add to M1T? And 4Derm... I really need some help in the gym and help with what to take... Again, I appreciate all of the assistance that anyone has to offer...

tryn2getbig

Posted by: layne760 Sep 16 2006, 11:31 AM

Do some fucking research man. We arent your parents, we arent going to pamper you by giving you all the information you want when you could do 30 minutes of research and find out for yourself. Damn you people piss me off!

Posted by: tryn2getbig Sep 17 2006, 12:47 AM

Listen you little cock-nocker...! Why don't you take your boyfriends cock out of your ass because it's making you a little grumpy! If you dont want to give some advice, then shut your pie hole and run on to another forum! I have done more than 30 minutes of rsearch and just don't understand most of what's being said! And, I think it's time to lay off the juice... ASS! Now people like you are what piss me off!

Posted by: layne760 Sep 17 2006, 12:03 PM

I love it how your telling me to go to another forum when your the one here with 11 posts, all of which have been dumbass, uninformed questions about M1T. You obviously arent very intelligent if you cant understand what you resarch, so i dont think a jackass like you needs to be doing an M1T cycle.

Posted by: tryn2getbig Sep 18 2006, 11:30 AM

Like I said Cock-nocker... Lay off the juice! Isn't Layne a womens name? ASS!

Posted by: keezer May 20 2007, 10:14 PM

hey boys new here ive been on anavar for a couple of weeks 40mg and now just started taking M1t 20mg today could i still take anavar with my m1t then stop both in weeks and do my PCT

Posted by: UDstud1805 May 20 2007, 10:35 PM

anavar... are you talking about the supplement anavar... or the steroid anavar?

Posted by: UDstud1805 May 22 2007, 08:58 PM

never mind... just saw 40 mg. anavar's not very toxic if at all/ so that wouldn't be a problem. but its mainly a strength gainer, and you're going to get plenty strong on the m1t so i'd not take both... plus, My experience has been that m1t really clogs up my recepters quicker than anything else. so i'd either finish the anavar then run the m1t or save it for later. I mean is expensive enough, i'd try to enjoy it by itself when you can.

Posted by: potential87 May 29 2007, 09:37 AM

I thought M1t was off the market?

Posted by: tkb Jun 13 2007, 08:31 PM

Are MT1 and M1T the same thing?

Posted by: SFW_SFW Jun 13 2007, 08:51 PM

i agree with lane... youre a dousche. everyone has to figure their own shit out. do it urself.

oh and i figured id let u know what M1T means... Methylated 1-testosterone... im sure that just clears it all up.

thig guy = BOMBR

Posted by: SEEGS Jun 21 2007, 01:50 PM

im surprised with how many guys take this under 21, you guys are playin with fire

Posted by: Eric137638 Jul 16 2007, 02:27 AM

QUOTE (SEEGS @ Jun 21 2007, 01:50 PM)

im surprised with how many guys take this under 21, you guys are playin with fire

fire indeed!

Several locals i know have done 4-6 week cycles of M1T at high dosages, and i mean alot of these guys are 16-19yrs old!

Posted by: sswole Jul 16 2007, 03:18 PM

Its all good.
If they dont take the advice on here, they are going to learn the hard way.

Posted by: nelsonfff Jul 27 2007, 12:05 AM

the noobs are trying to take over

Posted by: david29 Aug 14 2007, 04:15 PM

I heard that m1-t didn't turn into a lot of water weight but one of my buddies certainly looks like he put some on after he stopped taking it. I personally won't touch the stuff. Too scary, especially if your a partier.

Posted by: Succio Aug 14 2007, 07:42 PM

deutchse post to canada?

Posted by: typeRob Aug 15 2007, 02:01 PM

i think we need azfit to come in here and give a good review on M1T.

Posted by: opfor101 Aug 15 2007, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (typeRob @ Aug 15 2007, 02:01 PM)

i think we need azfit to come in here and give a good review on M1T.

Posted by: dedicated4life Aug 26 2007, 08:22 PM

i heard alot about m1t who makes it ?

Posted by: yeashescool Aug 26 2007, 08:39 PM

mcdonalds

Posted by: typeRob Aug 26 2007, 10:00 PM

yeah the M stands for McDonalds. McDonalds1T

Posted by: Cdubya Aug 27 2007, 02:02 AM

QUOTE (dedicated4life @ Aug 26 2007, 08:22 PM)

i heard alot about m1t who makes it ?

Fuck yeah bombr's back....you couldn't make it anymore obvious...how's the AIDS coming?

Posted by: yeashescool Aug 27 2007, 05:46 PM

yea the total name tho is mcdonalds 1st turkey, instead of the regular beef and chicken they got a lil something "off" the menu if you no what i mean.....

Posted by: typeRob Aug 28 2007, 09:07 PM

QUOTE (yeashescool @ Aug 27 2007, 05:46 PM)

yea the total name tho is mcdonalds 1st turkey, instead of the regular beef and chicken they got a lil something "off" the menu if you no what i mean.....

youre right i forgot about that. mcdonalds turkey is very anabolic. make sure you got a good pct.

Posted by: Regulator Nov 25 2007, 12:18 PM

if anyone has question on m1t youve come to the right place. Bulk nutition has some very experianced M1T users on this site. If you have any questions reguarding the use of M1T just shoot AzFitTrainer a pm. He will glady awnser any of your questions, as he is very experianced with this steriod.

Posted by: beentoolong Dec 13 2007, 12:27 PM

Hey whats up everyone.

Been out of the strength training game for just way too long now, and was looking up some of the products I used to take that are now off the market because of our US Congress' desire to interfere with our freedom as inviduals in the US. And thats how I stumbled on to this site.

I hope bringing up M1T in this forum isn't taboo at this point, considering all the posts ive just read.

I'm 27. and I've been an on again-off again lifter for about 10 years, but never really got serious with it until about the age of 22. Used creatine and protein powders for about 2 years, and then I started to cycle test with a product called Methyl 1 Testosterone Xtreme from IDS regularly for about a year, when I was 24. During that time, to cut back on costs a bit, I also used a product simply called M1T from Underground Laboratories. It was a bit cheaper than the IDS product.

Circumstances in my life caused me to stop my training program around that time. I remember right before the prohormone ban was going in to effect, I grabbed up like 10 bottles of Underground Labs M1T at a discount price. I always saw great gains with really no side effects that i can even remember. At the time I stopped, I was anywhere from 165-170, 5'10". My bench was a steady 170-205, dumbell incline and decline was 70lbs on my last set, etc. Never did much legs except calfs, and i'm sure there's a joke around here for that.

Anyway, I'm 27 now, and been out of the game completely for about 2 years, and I can still tell that my muscles are RIGHT THERE, just WAITING to come out of hibernation.

I've since started a family, with 2 kids now, and the GF and I have a new year's resolution to hit the gym and be serious about our health. It's sad really, because I pulled the cord on a power washer yesterday to get it to start while it was cold and sat for a while, and after fucking 10 pulls in succession with no luck, I was winded like I'd just ran a fucking marathon. I feel really horrible about myself right now.

I know that my muscles will remember where they were and come back fairly easy, but I'm wondering if anyone could give me some advice on the best way to get back into this. I used to have the best program, it worked so well for me. I just don't know exactly where to begin at this point. One thing that's great, or MAYBE great, is that it used to be so hard for me to gain weight. I used to STRUGGLE to stay above 160-165 while strength training, and now with no effort I'm at 165 even if I don't eat much during the day. I know that's probably because my metabolism is slower, but my job requires a lot of physical exertion ANYWAY, so it couldn't have gotten THAT much slower. I'm hoping maybe this time around I can break the 170 plateau I've always languished around, and KEEP it this time. My muscle tone actually still looks pretty damn good (my GF thinks so, which is good) EXCEPT for this fucking gut that I sport, which I've never had in my life.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I justwant to get back to feeling good again.

And PS...I still have a bottle of Underground Labs M1T leftover that never got used. I BADLY want to eventually incorporate it, but I'm afraid that once it's gone, considering the unavailablity of it now, I'll be sorry I did after I lose some of the mass.

So this is a 2-part post. 1, what's my best course of action to get started again weight training, and 2, what are the best mass/cut products to use that are still available over the counter?

Thanks

Posted by: Dupree Dec 15 2007, 01:36 AM

Hey guys..first of all GREAT FORUM!! I remember taking m1t a few years back with no info on it whatsoever, now looking back i cant believe the gains i probably missed and the damage i could have done. Its great to see people who realise that we need to keep these bodies our whole lives..anyways enuff of that!!

my question..if you choose to accept it is this. Im going for another round of m1t. but this time i would like to also try out the new HALO by muscletech. I have never been really good with the science behind mass building so i was wondering if anyone could think of any conflics or pros and cons about this combo, for all i know maybe its pointless to do.

Any insight would kick ass..

Posted by: accent115 Dec 15 2007, 10:30 AM

QUOTE (Dupree @ Dec 15 2007, 01:36 AM)

don't take anything by muscletech, i'll look at halo but i doubt its anything special. I'd personally stack M1T with a lot of Pro Liver.

Posted by: accent115 Dec 15 2007, 10:35 AM

I gave it a glance and it seems HALO, is creatine, bunch of aminos (amounts not specified), fat burners (again not amounts specified), and some random anabolic substances in most likely small quantities. However you're idea of stacking these two makes me believe you're thinking of M1T as a supplement. I could be completely wrong here, feel free to correct.

Posted by: Cdubya Dec 16 2007, 07:27 PM

We just got Halo in where I work. It looks like a decent product, but definitely not worth the money, just like every other MT product. Yeah, it's monohydrate with some BCAA's. Glutamine, etc. Buy it all in bulk, much cheaper and will last much longer.

Posted by: SpiritWalker Dec 17 2007, 05:20 PM

QUOTE (Cdubya @ Dec 16 2007, 07:27 PM)

Roger that.

Posted by: bigboy89 May 30 2008, 01:36 PM

hey, I'm 19 years old and i want to run a 2 week cycle of m1t from andro technologies, I'm planning to use clomid for my pct along with 20mg/day of anavar to solidify my gains, at this dose it shouldn't inhibit natural test production, but anyway, aside from those i was also going to supplement with protien, ensure plus, multi vitamins, and glucosamine for my joints, i was just wondering if there is anything else beneficial to take, i want this to go as smoothly and safely as possible without damaging my liver or body too much, i hear milk thistle is good for the liver, is there anything else that i should be aware of or any other products that would benefit me during this cycle??

my goal is to gain 10-15 pounds of solid muscle and increase strength and power, currently I'm about 5'8", 185 solid, and can bench about 320, squat 425. Does anyone know what kind of gains i should feasibly expect??

Posted by: miggyg May 30 2008, 08:37 PM

QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 30 2008, 03:41 PM)

If you can bench 320 at 19 and squat 420 or whatever you said, do you really think you need steroids?

Honestly?

ya..not only that but benching 320 at 185lbs...no steroids for you!

also are you westcoast Canadian?...sure is a crazy amount of M1T all over BC by Andro Technologies.

Posted by: Jayv24 May 31 2008, 02:14 AM

QUOTE (bigboy89 @ May 30 2008, 01:36 PM)

i gained 15 lbs on M1t and kept about 7-8 when it was all said and done. I started at 10, bumped to 20 by midweek, then 30 for the remainder of the cycle. strength went up by the end of the first week. but, i didnt look good. not sure if aesthetics are your goal or is it merely mass/strength.

if its the latter, good to go. have some sort of test product in there to counteract the lethargy though. i used 4-ad and ephedrine.

eat clean on it or you're gonna look sloppy.

P.S. @ 19, this may not be the wisest choice, considering you're nowhere near your genetic ceiling, nor are you done growing. Good luck.

Posted by: Christoph22123 Jun 6 2008, 04:45 PM

QUOTE (joseph23573 @ May 30 2008, 03:41 PM)

If you can bench 320 at 19 and squat 420 or whatever you said, do you really think you need steroids?

Honestly?

but with steroids he'll be 200lbs bench 500 and squat 650 Honestly all at 5'8"

Seriously though at 19 u don't need that crap- especially with such strength already

Posted by: miggyg Jun 8 2008, 02:32 PM

would DHEA be good to help with lethargy from the M1T?... also heard lots of eggs help??? which is weird but a few people told me that...what else would be good besides pinning test?

Posted by: Mustang69 Jun 9 2008, 08:51 AM

QUOTE (miggyg @ Jun 8 2008, 02:32 PM)

would DHEA be good to help with lethargy from the M1T?... also heard lots of eggs help??? which is weird but a few people told me that...what else would be good besides pinning test?

4AD is great! Its illegal/banned in USA/CANADA but doesnt mean shit... u can still get it!
(arent all steroids illegal banned!?)

m1t: The quick and dirty guide to using it

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=420872

Posted by: miggyg Jun 9 2008, 07:47 PM

QUOTE (Mustang69 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:51 AM)

QUOTE (miggyg @ Jun 8 2008, 02:32 PM)

would DHEA be good to help with lethargy from the M1T?... also heard lots of eggs help??? which is weird but a few people told me that...what else would be good besides pinning test?

Nice M1T write up you found!

yeah I realized that I cant get DHEA here..4AD I dont think I can round up and not going to pin my self with test... I think im going to just man up and use high carb food to fight the lethargy.

Thanks Mustang.

Posted by: Waves Jul 3 2008, 02:20 PM

well im 21yrs old and im 6'3 1/2 and 170lbs i bench 195 6reps and 205 3times im looking to be atleast 200-205lbs. and go up on my bench and other excersices im like a total newbie to dis whole prohormone stuff would m1T be a good idea and safe fo me to take? or any other suggestions for a 1st timer ??

Posted by: Cdubya Jul 3 2008, 07:31 PM

By reading all your posts I wouldn't recommend it

Posted by: HunglikeaHorse Jul 5 2008, 08:43 PM

I am 38 years old. I might stack M1T with x mass, phera max, and mass tabs.
Its going to be a get big or die trying cycle for me.

Posted by: Josh47933 Jul 5 2008, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (HunglikeaHorse @ Jul 5 2008, 08:43 PM)

I am 38 years old. I might stack M1T with x mass, phera max, and mass tabs.
Its going to be a get big or die trying cycle for me.

Someone needs to go ahead and ban this guy. if you read through all his posts, it becomes obvios that he's either a total fool or just yanking everyone's chain. Send him back to bb.com.

Posted by: spickidy Jul 7 2008, 05:41 PM

enjoy your prostate cancer and fucked up livers in the future everyone but i do hope your balls do not shrink and that your hair will not fall out no pills or supplements are going to protect you from future problems when taking roids,pro-steroids, and pro-hormones

Posted by: spickidy Jul 7 2008, 05:46 PM

i am sick of seeing people who have been getting gains for years suggesting testosterone supplements to people who are newer to bodybuiding and have not learned the basics of lifting,eating, and recovery. We should be helping the younger ones remember that patience and determination are keys to healthy constant gains

Posted by: swankinrosco Jul 16 2008, 12:22 PM

hmmm interesting...

Posted by: FreeMoney Aug 9 2008, 09:26 PM

Hi guys, I am a novice weight trainer and have been working out for almost a year and a half. I have recently hit a wall and decided to take M1T, I just need some advice on taking it, as of right now. I am taking 2 pills day, one after breakfast, one after dinner, I am also taking liver care alongisde and not using any other supplements outside of regular protein shakes. I also bought TribOxo for my off cycle so i dont have to deal with gyno. I have split the 80 capsule bottle with my friend and am planning on doing either a 20 day cycle of it or diong a two week cycle and then just doing an extra 6 days after two weeks. I would really appreciate some help on this.

Height 5''11
Mass: 160 Lbs
Goal (in 2 years max.); 200 Lbs

Posted by: yeashescool Aug 9 2008, 09:40 PM

Did you read this thread?

you should not be taking M1T at 5'11 and 160lbs obviously your not doing something rite. You need to be taking cycle support not just liver support. Your pct sucks dick, you will not be able to combat gyno.

Posted by: FreeMoney Aug 10 2008, 02:00 PM

What else should i get to fight off gyno?

Posted by: Cdubya Aug 10 2008, 07:38 PM

Umm...a SERM maybe you fucking idiot

Posted by: Jack-iron Aug 12 2008, 05:26 AM

I just wanted to say theres nothing like the old prohormones, and while im natural now, taking Novedex Xt and creatine and protein, it'll never be the same as when 1 ad and m 1t and the others were legal. If you can get ur hands on m1t its worth doing a few cycles correctly. Ull end up bigger then u were if u eat right is the point.

Posted by: AdamGrossman Aug 12 2008, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (Jack-iron @ Aug 12 2008, 05:26 AM)

Bravo, bravo. Did you ever do a cycle of M1T? No? Then maybe you shouldn't suggest that people do cycle(s) of it. It's that kind of advice from people that don't know what they're talking about which gets others hurt.