hello i was wondering hy nobody use's clomid everybody seems to go for novladex after a cycle as i'v just ordered some clomid for when i finish my first cycle which i have yet to start

Clomid makes me an emotional train wreck. That's the biggest reason I prefer Nolva. For really suppressive cycles, HCG+Nolva is very effective without turning into a whiny bitch, LOL.

I also had a great 3 week cycle with m1t. The only bad side I had was the headache thing as someone else mentioned. I mean bad. Any suggestions to prevent?

M1T is truly amazing! As far as I am concerned this product should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with prohormones. I stacked this product with Androgel and the results were absolutely friggin profane.My pumps were so incredible I could only knock out 4 reps at a time on bench.On the squats despite extensive stretching, my lower back felt like it was going to explode. I easily gained 3 pounds a week for 6 weeks running.I used the Androgel on the scrotal skin as it is almost 50% absorbed on that site.Any where else forget it the dose is way to small. And I used 10mg week 1, M1T and 30mg a week for the remaining 5 weeks in divided dosages. Great job, this product is one of a kind

I just got a bottle today. I ordered a different supplement by legal gear called methly ohn. Related to deca similar to anavar. Still waiting for that one. I was gonna try to stack the two. Any input on that? Has anyone tried that. or a similar stack?

I am getting ready to start taking M1T and i also have Human Growth Complex. I am curious if it would hurt to take them with each other. I have been taking milk thistle for awhile so i am not worried about my liver. I was also wondering though if there was something you could do or take to help insure that it doesnt stunt your growth?

Ive been cycleing for going on 4 years now and have tryied everything from bulk to cut cycles,,,,Pro hormones are a new venture for me.
Prob will be going clean due to the testing rumors in my sport. M1T in great stuff and at only $10 a bottle. Thats how i was able to stumble across this board.

I hate negatives because that is what makes you a loser in my book,,,but im
looking around at people who are asking simple questions and getting slammed for it.

Even though i know pretty much everything about every anabolic that is out there as well as been on them IF
i ask a question about a pro hormone which i know nothing about id prob
get slammed for being as smart as you guys


BTW> I did notice a power increase after a couple of days and its the best
chump change ive ever spent,,,also i will be buying about 10 more bottles
before the ban

Forgot to add,,,My doseages are 25 to 30mg per day.
Newbies i would stick to 10mg ed. 2 per day. No more than that.
Im running my M1T with deca and am seeing pretty good results for a first time
anabolic and prohormone stack. I would like to find out more on what could be stacked with m1t like winni, anadrol, bdol ect.

Like i said im new to the fake roids

steveEray, I read in this thread that you were new to the Forums here. Your response " IF i ask a question about a pro hormone which i know nothing about id prob
get slammed for being as smart as you guys"
really isn't fair to those of us that use this board. On top of the Supplement Forum there is 3 pinned topics all about posting on these boards including an extensive Prohormone/steroid/anti-e FAQ list that goes into great detail about these items. Another is Forum Rules which asks all members to read before posting. Here is a direct reply to your above quote..."5. Before posting, try running a search to see if that answers your question. Also, try looking through our archieve of articles". This is no way a slam on you, if you had been on this board for a while you also would have noticed the same questions asked time after time by people that felt it easier to ask rather than read. THAT is the reason people get, in your words, slammed. Most of the time it is only a quick "run a search" which doesn't seem like much of a slam to me. Coggy's question, to me at least, is one that I haven't seen addressed in the the above Pinned Topics or addressed by those who use this board. I may be wrong, I've only been here sinceMarch. Most of these guys (and gals) are very knowledgeable and happy to help someone out if they have some input.

This is what im talking about,,,I'll drop it but for someone to have a huge amount of post and should be a knowledgeable person to slam a new guy was wrong.
I know im going off topic but i am a member of another board that does not allow you to step on people. What should of been said is a simple,,read the past post for your answer instead of slamming someone on there progress,,,anyway im dropping it. Its off topic.

FYI> This newbie might be about to bring alot of info to the board,,just what i think,,but im only a newbie. I dont know anything

hey newbie....go read the stickys in the supplement forum.

you dont have nothing to offer the board because you dont know shit about prohormones or prosteroids.

juss pulling your chain bro

I really need to get off the juice

Hi, I am new at this forum. I am 22, 162 lbs and dont gain weight very easily. I've tried protein, weight gainers and creatine and dont get good results. I have just ordered this, hopefully i get it (I am in canada) but I had some questions for some people out there. I am prone to acne, does this increase it? I've heard that it doesnt, and I heard that it does. Let me know your experiences, along with any other side effects I may experience? And other than milk thistle should I be taking anything else at the same time. Is anti-estrogen pills useful during or after the cycle? thanks

M1T has been known to cause acne in some cases, but it all depends on how YOU react to it. You may not have any kind of problems with acne when you do a cycle, or, some volcanoe sized zits will begin to boil under your skin and explode with white puss...lol. But yes, some people have mentioned acne as a side, especially on back and face.

I have gotten acne.....in weird places....no...not there you sick bastards....haha.....but really, i got pimples on my biceps and shoulders and never had them in my life until i cycled m1t a couple of times. every time i finish a cycle.....they come back. really weird shit guys. i think i'll lay off when the summer hits......won't be too popular at the beach with this shit. anyone else get them in these places?

Just out of curiosity, is this the first prohormone/steroid you've used?

My opinion of M1T is very high. Like most, I've had tremendous gains in short periods of time. Keep in mind, this is after being experienced and while attempting to overcome some pleateus. Great gains are expected when you're relatively new. You can't use that a very good judge of crediblity with regards to supplements. For example, the majority of lifters who are new could expect great gains regardless of supplementation, specifically with M1T in this case. I posted this to clear up the matter. I have around six to six and a half years experience lifting and have pleatued several times. I've always overcame those but at a hefty price. When I firsted started supplementing with M1T, they were overcome in less than two weeks and without a _dramatic_ change in diet or routine. I altered my routine a bit. It was originally four days per week, varying body parts based on the day. When supplementing with anything that increases free testosterone, I assumed that it would be a better idea to decrease the amount of sets per session but increase the number of sessions. ie. from fourteen sets/per body part/per day and four sessions to ten sets/per body part/per day and six sessions. This is because excess free testosterone aids in the recovery process, thus allowing you to "overwork" the muscles compared to your normal routine(s). I'd alternate body parts based on a two-day split routine. For example, on Sunday, I would work chest and shoulders. Monday would be back and legs. Then repeat chest and shoulders on Tuesday, etc. Over a weeks time, that would increase the overall sets/per bodypart/per week from fourteen to thirty. Normally, this would result in overtraining, under most circumstances. Why can you do it and get by with it now? Simply, excess free testosterone. I've cycled as follows: 1st month: M1T and creatine; 2nd month: Tribex(tribulus), creatine, NO2; 3rd month: MT1 and creatine; 4th month: Tribex, creatine, and NO2. In this four month period since trying my first pro-testosterone and pro-hormone supplements, I've gained two inches around my chest, directly under my arm pits. My arms have grown three-quarters of an inch. My estimated one rep max on flat bench with free weights(via one rep max calculators) has increased 55lbs, from 190 to 245. Keep in mind that I'm 5'2" and weigh 115-120lbs, depending on water retention. That's around twice my bodyweight. I don't totally owe the gains to M1T or any supplement for that matter. Proper training, diet, and sleep are still necessary regardless of how many and what supplements you take. However, supplementation can be a _very_ useful aid assuming you have everything else mastered. I wouldn't advice supplementing with anything this powerful while you're still new simply because it isn't necessary. You're most likely going to make great gains even if you never bought a bottle of this. If, however, you've worked very hard over several years to perfect yourself and you still need an extra aid, then I would definitely suggest M1T. On another note, I've never taken anything to help reduce damage to my liver nor have I stopped drinking. I don't do it as often, but I still do it. As of yet, I've had no complaints as far as health issues and side effects are concerned. The only side effects that I did notice is acne(even after a full cycle of Accutane from my dermatologist) and aggresiveness/irritability. So perhaps I've been lucky and haven't experienced anything very negative, like some other users have claimed. That doesn't mean that you won't. As far as that goes, I can just suggest that you try it and note the effects. If it causes any problems that you aren't willing to go through, then stop. On that note, I'm done. I'd like to think that this will help somone who is interested.

The First Two weeks on M1T I gained 9lbs and my bench went from 225x10 to 225x18 then I took two weeks off and did another cycle of two weeks and gained another 7lbs. The only thing I didn't like was my blood pressure jump up really high.


Starting Bodyweight 164lbs
End Bodyweight 180lbs

How High was your blood pressure? What did you use to combat it? I am just doing S1+ in the beggining I would come back from a workout check my Blood pressure it was 164/96 bpm 101! Started taking Hawthorn berry and celery root. dropped to 99/58 bpm 72-81 bpm still high at times, like it could be 101/65 at 81 bpm.

Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows why this produce it being discontinued at bodybuilding.com. . .I thought it was pretty new? Do you think taking a 5mg dosage for beginners at prohormones is enough to see results (im only 164lbs)?

thanks