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M1T is the best legal prohormone that I have taken. I'm 6'2 270 lbs. I've gained 9 lbs in three weeks. I've went from 365 to 385 on the bench. Just missed 405. I ate about the same, but if I missed a meal I got the shakes and light headed. Sex drive went down. On my next cycle I'll take a testosterone enhancer. T-bomb, Mag-10 aren't worth the money. Can't wait for the next cycle.

Its not a prohormone buddie. Also some of the weight you gained was water weight and you will not retain all of it.

weeviekins, what was the point in saying that? Correcting the PH statement is one thing, but why would you tell him that he's not going to keep all his gains like he's trying to brag about it? I don't mean to be a dick, but there's no reason to be rude.

biggun (your name fits you - what's your BF%?), good job on the strength gains. A 20lb. increase on your bench is not shabby at all for 3 weeks. What kind of PCT did you run?

I don't think M1T causes much water weight gain.

Very specifically, assuming everyone is different and gains/losses are dependent on many factors....

What is a "rule of thumb" regarding how much of the gains attained during a prohormone (more specifically M1T & 4AD) cycle can be maintained (i.e. what % of the gains could you reasonably expect to keep)?

Secondly, What is the consensus among the very experienced posting here (the moderators) on the absolute best PCT assuming that prescrips (i.e. Nolva) are not an option?

What I'm seeing on non-prescrip PCT is generally 60X0, a liver detox (milk thistle), Lecitin granules. Am I missing anything? Is there anything considered superior for maintaining gains (again non-prescrip)? Why not 4-hyroxyandrostendione?

I've gone from 208 lbs. on Feb. 25 to 216 lbs on March 9 (15 days) using 30mg of Gaspari NutritionM1T/day (10mg morning, 10mg pre-workout at noon, 10mg 10:30pm). Added SAN A100 4AD (500mg/day in 100mg doses spread out over the day) on March 5 (6 days as of today). I've seen gains before that outwardly appear to be mostly water (i.e. bloated face, etc.) but, honestly during these 15 days I've seen the love handles noticably shrinking, skin looks and feels fairly thin (relatively speaking), muscles are very tight, strength gains have been tremendous (again relative speaking for me). Does not appear, based on my impressions of others I've seen, to be mostly water. Time will tell, but I am certainly not looking or feeling bloated at this point.

Side Effects: Sides are what you make of them. Nothing that a 37yr old beat to crap old clunker isn't used to anyway so I haven't noticed much of anything.

37 yrs old. 5' 9" or 5' 10". BF% unknown...normal? Other Supps incl. Glutamine (25g spread out), Creatine w/ AKG from IDS (4g pre-workout & 4g post-workout), Protien from all sources (food & supp) approx. 275g-300g/day (Optimum Whey and CytoGainer), Clean Carbs from all sources approx. 300g/day, fat intake ? (include 4TBSP of Flaxseed Oil and 1TBSP of Cod Liver Oil per day).

I was on M1T for like 20 days increasing every week, I found i didnt gain no water weight, to tell the truth as i told everyone els about it, i lost fat, and gained 7 pounds of muscle, witch if u ask me is a great result.

Also, ill be going back on once i finish my post cycle.

But if you ask me if you do it right and work out right, m1t is unreal.

Also i forgot to say that my bech went up a ton, somthing like 20 to 30 pounds.

Also on Incline Bench with dumbbell, i went from doing around 60 pounds for sets with 70 being my max for around 8 reps.

But no i can put up max of 90 for 8 reps (i got a full set once) an 80 pounds for sets.

Hey peeweekin0002, I'm not your buddy. If you would read it says prohormone/ steroid. You have a negative attitude. I bet when you walk in the gym everybody says, "here comes negative boy". M1T is great stuff. You need to try it and develope a winning attitude. I appreciate everybody else's comments. Good job Wayner. Keep up the hard work.

Sorry I'm not trying to be negative. Just trying to be "real". I don't expect miracles from a bottle. I just think M1T has been way over-hyped. I have read of people getting similiar results with S1+ without the danger to the liver.

As far as pure muscle gains, most if not all, assuming proper PCT. The idea that gains go away after cycles is based on the fact that some steroids cause a lot of water gain that is lost after a cycle. This is not indicative of strength/muscle mass loss.

Assuming legal only, 6-OXO is definitely the best. Formestane converts to an androgen which could further shutdown.

I just finished using M1T for 30 days straight at only 5mg/day. I'm 20yrs old, 5'11 171lbs before i started using it and finished at around 185lbs. Now i don't know about you guys but I think thats pretty damn good considering it's very hard for me to put on weight(my metabolism is very high). My bench went up probably 30-40lbs. I was also on NAC, flax seed oil, and took some vit. E during the cycle. Now im off using 6-oxo and still taking NAC, milk thistle, and flax oil. M1T is truely the best bang for your buck when it comes to mass and strength gains.[SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]

Dude the stuff works wonders (m1T) if you doubt it try it $10 is all you need. You can be neg if you want but you have never used why cry. My gains were huge and trust me creatine put water on you this feeling is not at all close. So dont jump on someones gains because you haven't tried it.

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I Just got a few questions about M1T. I started taking it today. When I worked out i may have just been hyped but i felt good and my workout was more intense than usual. My main questions are how should I go about taking the M1T(ex. every day, or just on workout days) I only workout Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and what about alcohol consumption? I usually have a few the here and there. If someone can help me out I'd appreciate it.

1: a little simple reseach before you started would have answered these and more questions in a matter of minutes

2. Recomend not taking it @ all. Take some time to learn about what you are going to take, construct a complete plan, PCT included, then think about taking it.

3. If you are going to stay on, you take it everyday. You grow muscles while you recover not in the gym.

4. Dont drink while on, or while recovering. If you cant leave the alcohol alone for a month or so then dont do the Cycle and continue to drink.

thanks Phill,

I did research a little before i started using. It took me about 3 weeks before i decided to get some, i just wondered if there was someone with the same sort of Mon. Wed. Fri. workout routine that could help me out a little. Some of my friends are taking it and i talked to them atleast twice a week to see how they were doing and all i heard was good things. But, i appreciate the advice.

FONT=Impact][SIZE=1][COLOR=orange]I am 23 and have been on M1T for 7 days and felt huge gains. Ihave taken so many different things in the past and I mean taken cycle after cycle with other supplements and this M1T is awesome. My muscle pump is much greater than anything before, chest, tris, biceps, legs, shoulders have got leaner and more mass, I am @ 15% b/f and 180 pds, 5'10'' I would suggest that everyone should give it a try but only if your serious about body building...I have a log book I use every workout and have proof about the strength gains and my wife keeps telling me I look much bigger... try it out

I just got done working out this morning and I went from 105# 8x to 115 8x DB brench and my Incline DB went from 85# to 95# 8x......and people that is 8 days into this stuff @ 10 mg. a day....everything else I did was up from last week. I am just so excited about it I just wanted everyone to know. The only side effect I have had was a slight headache a few days in a row but it goes away with a couple Alieve...It is all worth it....

I'd watch taking the alieve while on M1T. Anything that could possibly put extra strain on your liver should be avoided. I had some headache problems early in the cycle when I took M1T but they went away after a few days. Be sure you're taking stuff for your liver like milk thistle or NAC. Otherwise good luck with your gains.

I am taking milk thistle everyday for the last two months because I heard that it is great to take it. I seriously cant believe the gains, I have taken pro-hormones befor but nothing that felt like this...Is it safe to take 20mg for the next 2 1/2 weeks and I was also wondering I take it on none training days I train 5 to 6 days a week but just wondering if I should not take it on those off days as well....

I wanted to post results of my 2 week cycle of M1T and 4ad. I've read through a lot of these posts to gain some knowledge about what I was doing, there is a LOT of info here as well as knowledgeable people, so the homework is very easy if you take some time. I started the 1st week at 5mg M1T and 300 mg 4ad transdermal 2x/d and second at 7.5 and 300 4ad 2x/d along with 125 mg of milk thistle 3x a day for both weeks. I have a very good doctor I can talk to and after the cycle I told him I would like blood work done. My results showed that my enzymes were almost twice my previous time and he scheduled more blood work a week later and I upped my milk thistle to 250 mg 3x a day. I just got my results today and he says they are close to my normal. I'm starting another cycle next week and the doc is already scheduling more blood tests throughout...wot a guy! Make no mistake about it, this stuff is strong. I see people writing about M1T and some serious loads they are taking and some reference to milk thistle and other liver cleansers BUT I see nothing about any blood work to see how the liver has been affected. I made great gains, had great pumps and sometimes a bad attitude.....as well as a distressed liver.
I'm no kid, I'm 47 y/o been weight training more than half my life, 191# and about 10%bf .....and have a few "other" cycles under my belt.