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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 10:54 PM
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I need opinions and/or critique on my upcoming cycle. Figured id run it by you AAS abusers so i can get some input. Im trying to plan this now while my supply has it in stock.

Objective: Trying something different. Im going to start this as an all out dirty-bulk and then transition into a lean-bulk, and then finally a Cutter. Looking to aquire 10 qualitive Lbs. when PCT is all said and done.

Week 1-3: M1T 10mgs/ed- Testaplex 400/wk - Test Cyp 400/wk - Tren E 400/wk
Week 4-7: Testaplex 400/wk - Test Cyp 250/wk - Tren E 400/wk -
Week 8: Testaplex 400/wk - Test Cyp 250/wk - Tren E 400/wk - DNP 250 mg/ED
Week 9-13: Oral Turanaplex 20mgs/ED - Winnie 50mg/EOD - Test cyp 400/wk
Week 14-16: Oral Turanaplex 20mgs/ED -ECY stack- (Not gonna pin test for the last 2 weeks, as im sure i'll have enough residual gears in me)

This is going to be my 2nd AAS cycle. I didnt kickstart my last abuser, which i'll be doing this time.

My Questions: Whats the Opinion on running 2 seperate orals during this cycle? (They'll be spaced 5 weeks apart mind you)

Also, I've Never used DNP but from what ive read/researched so far, i plan on buying it. (reports of 10 lbs of fat burned in a week are exciting to hear) Any opinions on my dnp dosages? do they look decent/safe for a Noob? Also, does this cycle overall look solid for my objective?


Stats: 5'9'' 201-204lbs bf% 9-10ish


Ancillaries:
HCG (Last week of Cycle)
Nolvadex (PCT)
ATD (the last 2-3 weeks of PCT)
Arimidex (on cycle AI)
ECY (last 2 wks and post cycle)
Nizoral shampoo 2% (on cycle, PCT)
DNP - 2,4-Dinitrophenol (week 8 of cycle)

Support supp's:
Saw Palmetto extract (on cycle and post cycle)
Liv 52 and NOW's Liver detoxifier and regenerator (Pre-cycle, on cycle and post cycle)
CoQ10 (post cycle)
Tribulus (post cycle)
B6 (on cycle)

Essentials:
Multi V's and various minerals
Various amino's (Alcar, glutamine)
ON 100% Whey

Extras:
CytoGainer (First 4 weeks of cycle)
CEE/taurine/AAKG or AEE (on cycle, post cycle)


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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 11:07 PM
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why make it so complicated? stick to one ester of test unless its a blend like sust. dnp is retarded, i would never fuck with that shit people have died from it. i would switch that out with t3. t3 is fucking amazing and is wayyyyyy better than clen or ephedrine.

its funny that you call yourself an abuser but you have PCT. honestly i dont even know what the fuck that shit is anymore. you know nothing about abuse asshole mad.gif
so subtract pct and add trt. other than that your noob abuser looks solid. smile.gif


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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE (typeRob @ Jul 3 2008, 11:07 PM)
why make it so complicated? stick to one ester of test unless its a blend like sust. dnp is retarded, i would never fuck with that shit people have died from it. i would switch that out with t3. t3 is fucking amazing and is wayyyyyy better than clen or ephedrine.

its funny that you call yourself an abuser but you have PCT. honestly i dont even know what the fuck that shit is anymore. you know nothing about abuse asshole  mad.gif
so subtract pct and add trt. other than that your noob abuser looks solid.  smile.gif

lol ok ok. but the cyp was cheaper than the sust. and i figured id save a few bucks instead of getting all that sust, id split it and get a couple of cyp's for a lower price.


anyway t3 scares me. reports of people becoming totally dependant on thyroid meds for life? i mean...jesus. i rather be dead quickly than on lifelong meds. and reports of people developing BiPolar disorder from speeding up their thyroids with chems.

i believe they used DNP to detinate TNT back in the day, which sounds safer


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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Jul 3 2008, 11:14 PM)
QUOTE (typeRob @ Jul 3 2008, 11:07 PM)
why make it so complicated? stick to one ester of test unless its a blend like sust. dnp is retarded, i would never fuck with that shit people have died from it. i would switch that out with t3. t3 is fucking amazing and is wayyyyyy better than clen or ephedrine.

its funny that you call yourself an abuser but you have PCT. honestly i dont even know what the fuck that shit is anymore. you know nothing about abuse asshole  mad.gif
so subtract pct and add trt. other than that your noob abuser looks solid.  smile.gif

lol ok ok. but the cyp was cheaper than the sust. and i figured id save a few bucks instead of getting all that sust, id split it and get a couple of cyp's for a lower price.


anyway t3 scares me. reports of people becoming totally dependant on thyroid meds for life? i mean...jesus. i rather be dead quickly than on lifelong meds. and reports of people developing BiPolar disorder from thyroid meds. im not sold on it yet.

your thyroid is very hard to shut down permanently. and where have you heard of people becoming bipolar from it? sounds like a load of shit to me. t3 is 10x safer than DNP bro.


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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 11:22 PM
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i overheard some guy at the gym say it. he said PCT was a myth too. nah seriously i dont know where i heard it but i know it was on some science show or something.

So if i blub up on my dirty bulker, you think T3 is gonna get me fuckin jacked and lean again? i was thinkin the DNP because its so dramatic and quick.

who died on it? people OD on advils too.


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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 11:42 PM
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...ghlight=thyroid

Focus on what Vadim says about T3, the guy is really smart and knowledgeable in anything AAS.

And I also heard DNP side effects and risks were severely hyped up (as usual). The only death I was aware of was a 100lb girl taking 1000mcg daily or some ridiculous dose.


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Posted: Jul 3 2008, 11:54 PM
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t3 is the shit. fuck dnp.

overheating and having to take ice baths doesn't sound cool to me.

I would never take half that other shit again like multi's, ephed, saw palm but that's your call
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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 12:56 AM
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damn man..how much does a cycle like that run you at in the wallet?


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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 01:48 AM
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Miggy = A grip

goodskie = If i have to take an icebath to get jacked i'll do it

vap = thanks for the link.


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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 03:30 AM
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What's the deal with gear and PCT? With PH's everyone says "time on + PCT = time off" but is that the same with the real shit?

Anyway, your cycle looks crazy dude, you're gonna get/remain swole as shit and lean as fuck. Try to break some squat/bench/dead PR's!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 11:05 AM
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only one suggestion...drop the m1t and kickstart with a-bombs...


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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 11:07 AM
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oh yea.

and if you're gonna run an abuser cycle...stop taking a womans dose and up your test to AT LEAST 1500mg /wk.

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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 01:41 PM
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yea be a man and do 750 in each nut...LOL. u can beat the shit out of the HULK.

ill give u props for that cycle so far, looks crazy. make sure to drink tonns&tonns of water w/DNP that shit is no joke, id never touch that stuff.
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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Jul 4 2008, 01:48 AM)
Miggy = A grip


blink.gif blink.gif I even tried googling what that means..no idea...


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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (miggyg @ Jul 4 2008, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Jul 4 2008, 01:48 AM)
Miggy = A grip


blink.gif blink.gif I even tried googling what that means..no idea...

its urban slang which means alot or a long time.


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Posted: Jul 4 2008, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE (typeRob @ Jul 4 2008, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (miggyg @ Jul 4 2008, 01:54 PM)
QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Jul 4 2008, 01:48 AM)
Miggy = A grip


blink.gif blink.gif I even tried googling what that means..no idea...

its urban slang which means alot or a long time.

ahhh get it now tongue.gif ..neither the less..are you logging it?


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Posted: Jul 5 2008, 07:00 PM
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of course im gonna log it with pics. I know i end up getting lazy and barely keep up with it in the end. but pics for sure. I'll probably look like a fat fuck for the first month but thats fine. The goal is Sumo-like mass.

Jw, yeah its time on plus pct = time off. Im probably not running this cycle until october...HOWEVER, im ordering now....which is gonna be REALLY frickin hard to not use with all that beautiful Juice in my posession.

fuckin PF lol. You're aware this is would be my 2nd AAS? in due time homey, i'll be pinning big CC's. Im still a major noob at this. i seriously wonder how id react to like 2 grams of test a week. probably wouldnt be able to handle it civilly. (starting shit with random people, picking up cracked out whores, etc). first 2 weeks of my first cycle, i spazzed out over the simplest shit. until my body adjusted and i took control. Anyway the A-bombs were the original plan with this cycle....but i was trying to save a Buck i suppose and use the M1t i already had.

I'll probably consider A's...i'd be able to run it a bit longer too.



Ive also been reading a LOT more about T3 and it does seem MUCH safer than the DNP. from what i understand now, there is no mechanism to lower your body temp if you OD on the DNP. That would be something to use with the utmost care and attention. still not 100% sure which to go with at this point.





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Posted: Jul 5 2008, 08:12 PM
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from what I've read, some don't gain much more by going over a gram of test a week. and since its your second cycle that would be stupid.

since you're lean now t3 would be perfect. no reason to overdo it man especially by doing shit like dnp. im sure the sides are exaggerated but you just don't need it. if you can handle m1t then go for it
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Posted: Jul 6 2008, 12:25 AM
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Dude, do you ever take anytime off or are you on 24/7/365?


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Posted: Jul 6 2008, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (Roids @ Jul 6 2008, 12:25 AM)
Dude, do you ever take anytime off or are you on 24/7/365?

do you know what the word abuse means?


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