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Posted: Jun 23 2008, 10:00 PM
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thatss exactly what happens cockskie


listen noob. thats why ronnie coleMAN lost the mr olympia.
he only cut on a ECY stack and without test.

jay cutler being a smart guy and obviously more educated since hes white and ronnie coleman is a negro,

ran test and went from 300 lbs 13% to 2-3 percent and competed at a contest weight of 302 lbs. 2 lbs of solid fucking muscle. see he gained weight.

get with the program! noob

but jay cutler prolly cheated anyway, cuz i heard he abused GAKIC and LEUKIC. ohmy.gif


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Posted: Jun 23 2008, 10:15 PM
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ive got a script for test (sandoz) and have been on it for months and lost fat and maintained the same weight, only because i was trying to. This is cruising at 300 and bumping to 500mgs every so often. I have a little bloat but no fat gain. Also coleman was on HRT, he didnt cut just with ecy.


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Posted: Jun 23 2008, 10:34 PM
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Goodskie, How are you on a "High caloric deficit" when you yourself stated "You dont count calories". You have no idea what you're cal count is, you're speculating. i understand you can use test for cutting as it spares muscle. But you would have to totally control aromatization....as the conversion to Estrogen does promotes fat gain and fluid retention. am i wrong about that?

The whole point is Sandman probably wouldnt be on a caloric deficit. he would probably eat way above maintenance and would end up going from blubbed to super blubbed.

You really arent training hard because you could of recomped instead of simply "lost weight". waste of gear.

but goodskie, you're jacked. What number do you set the stairmaster dial on when you workout? I think im gonna run 100mg a day Oxymethelone cutter cycle next. You're my inspiration for it.


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Posted: Jun 23 2008, 11:02 PM
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I don't have to sit here with a calculater to know im in a coloric deficit. I eat seven clean meals a day. that's it.

losing weight quickly lets me know what im doing is working.

you have no idea what sandman eats NOW

I didn't want to recomp cause i was fuckin blubbed.

if I don't train hard then why am I stronger than you, after a long cut, even tho you were on tren test and h-drol? and you've been training longer.

you act like cutting on test e is so stupid. it was my first cycle. I didn't want to pin every day.

there I answered your questions, yet you can't answer any of mine so far. why is that?
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Posted: Jun 23 2008, 11:46 PM
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Posted: Jun 24 2008, 12:00 AM
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cause I had to come off gear and now im pissed. the only cure is to talk shit to those more jacked than i.

as soon as im geared again I'll be a nice gear buddy for all to enjoy smile.gif
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Posted: Jun 24 2008, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE (DownTown @ Jun 22 2008, 08:12 PM)
I personally know this guy, he eats clean, his diet is very similar to my own, just less. He was in pretty good shape in iraq with me. He is a good runner and keeps up better than most, and calls cadance while doing so and thats not easy to do. he is also strong as hell in the gym. He has tried other methods, diets + cardio, and he has used other stims to help, without much avail. Im going to help him out with very thing, first hes going to lock on his training and diet to the T. Then hes going to go on a cut for a few months till hes solid. Also this cycle isnt going to be any time soon, like i said we are going to get everything to 100% first and im going to be there every step of the way to help him. He was consistent with the gym until we got back, so hes got a few years of training under his belt. But like i said he wanted advice for a future cycle.

good lookin out bro...

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Posted: Jun 24 2008, 11:21 AM
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