No, nothing like that; although sex drive on M1T is pretty low. You can still get it up but you don't go around looking for any extra if you know what I mean. Although, if you have a new girlfriend, that ought to help ;-)

No, my prostate got enlarged and, mostly at night, I would get a real bad burning sensation after urinating (no, it wasn't the Clap). Man, it was really bad. I ended up having to go on antibiotics to get over it. SD did the same thing. All the shit with real high androgenic affects do that to me. Most likely my age. Anyway, you're doing 10mg and only three weeks. I was on for 31 days.

ahh I see thats ok then I havnt really heard of other people having that issue..just low sex drive long as I can get er up im good lol.

So I picked up my Nolva today and the guy said that Clomid is better to kick start the nuts and that he runs Nolva during cycle and clomid for PCT...does taking 2 SERMS make any sense?

exactly, hit or miss. why run somethin thats 50/50? real gear like test is guaranteed good gains and little or no sides.

and no i didnt start AAS at 18. ive been lifting since i was 16. started training seriously at 18 for 2 years and started AAS about 6 months prior to turning 21. nice try though.
i dont know why you bring that bullshit up anyway man im just giving you my honest opinion, take it or leave it, but just promise me youll get fuckin jacked and tan bro

I wasnt trying to bring anything up and I said your advice was solid.. I thought you had started younger so thats why I asked. And you know damn well ill get jacked an tan. ..But ya nothing is really set in stone I might still stack it with test....

anyway about my last question I asked.. the guy i got the nolva off of was telling me when he does hard orals he takes 20mg of nolva during the cycle and uses clomid post cycle..is this totally dumb or a way to take it?? I tried searchin around but cant any inof about stacking it like this.

alot of guys like to stack nolva or clomid. i did my first cycle and i seemed to recover fast altho ive never ran only nolva so i wouldnt know how it compares. id recommend nolva and/or toremefine. clomid has some nasty side effects. it made me moody as fuck and i was a little bitch all the time, i wanted to cry sometimes for no reason. stay away from clomid is my best advice.

lol alright thanks dude guess my biggest concern is kick startin the nuts when im done cycle so thought clomid would be good for that..but im not really into being a moody bitch more then the cycle will make me anyway..Nolva/novedexXT/STOKED should be sweet.

nolva solo works for me. you're going to be tired and lazy regardless but do what you can

"Methyl-1-Testosterone, does not aromatize, this means that Methyl-1-Testosterone does not convert to estrogen. Methyl-1-Testosterone is 5alpha-reduced androgen which prevents it from converting to estrogen, however due to the 5alpha-reduced it is a DHT-derivative. It is not testosterone, Methyl-1-Testerone is a 17aa version of 1-Testosterone, and 1-Testosterone is actually the 5alpha-reduced version of Boldenone, so by this we can see that Methyl-1-Testerone is to 1-Testosterone, that Methandrostenolone is to Boldenone, and 1-Testosterone is to Testosterone as DHT is to Boldenone.

Some people have reported bloating and other "estrogen like" effects; however these are actually progestin side effects. This leads us to the point that an ancillary SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Module) like Nolvadex would do no use because it is a competitor with estrogen with the estrogen receptors.

This leads me to another point! If for some obscure reason someone in questions is in fact running Methyl-1-Testosterone as a solitary androgen, they will shut down their HPTA which stops all natural Testosterone production. Testosterone plays many vital roles in the human body, including manages emotions and sex drive. This will lead me to another point, the only way the male body can create estrogen is through the conversion or aromatization of testosterone, and with no testosterone in the body, and you will also leave yourself without estrogen. Estrogen even though it is termed as a female hormone it is essential to proper function of the male body. Now, for those of you who will recommend Nolvadex or a similar SERM for gynomastia, what will it do when estrogen and thus the estrogen receptors are not the cause of this gynomastia? Also as a side note, lets face it estrogen is essential to proper function, now everyone knows that SERMs have a high success rate of beating estrogen at the receptors, so if you have very little if any estrogen in your body, why would you want to block the small bit that you may still have?

Okay, okay, well your saying, if you're so smart what should we take? First of all I believe that your Methyl-1-Testerone should be stacked with an exogenous testosterone. However even if it is not, Methyl-1-Testosterone does have progestin like effects and it has been proven that where we find progestin we will find Prolactin, the two go hand and hand. So now we know that the cause of gynomastia or bloating or other "estrogen like" side effects are actually Prolactin side effects, and thus we will need a Prolactin suppresser, and yes things that manage Prolactin actually suppress Prolactin, and I say this because aromatization inhibitors, do not suppress estrogen they prevent the conversion to estrogen, and SERMs, do not suppress estrogen they compete with estrogen. So the weapon of choice to combat these side effects is actually Cabergoline."



so after reading this seems like i should be in the market for some Cabergoline...

Not everyone sees gyno from this product. If I were you miggy, I would not dose above 10mg. Start at 5mg, or just run 10mg the whole way through. You will still gain a shit load of weight and strength from M1T running it at 10mg for 2-3 weeks. Keep it at 3 weeks, Nolva PCT, you should be fine. No reason to make it all complicated.

thanks dude ya I would start at 5 but my M1T is in capsules at 10mg so thats as low as I can go..and I never planned to go above that..

I know keeping it simple is the way to go ...but since it can convert to progestin rather then estrogen scares the hell out of me if Nolva is going to do nothing if I get any gyno sides...

All my supports are here gotta pick them up at the post office tomorrow..also got some GreenMAG and Whiteflood in the order.

abuser time

and so it begins......


Good luck with the cycle.

...just go with it. Milky man boobs aren't so bad.

On a serious note. m1t was great with prop 200mg EOD.

How do you think M1T would do as a kickstart to a 650/wk Test cyp cycle?

Based on my experience with M1T, it would be a great kick start for strength gains. The only drawback would be the almost immediate shutdown. I am currently in 7th week of Test E cycle and I can honestly say that I have virtually no nut shrinkage yet. Can't say how shut down I am because libido is way up from Test. With M1T I was shut down within a week and nuts were "peanuts" if you know what I mean. But damn that stuff works. Too bad it is so damn lethal :-( You probably wouldn't want to do a very long cycle or use HCG to keep nuts inflated. But, having big nuts isn't everything, is it?

Take all that shit, starting................now!

start pre loading wednesday.. Its Canada day up here tuesday so that my final hitting the bottle night...just got back from picking up some milk thistle, B12, hawthorn, saw palm so now I got EVERYTHIN!!

oh by the way I just used Whiteflood for the first time..MY GOD its better then NO shotgun...

Pumped that you're all stocked up and ready to go bro, can't wait to see what kind of results you get from this cycle. Take before/after pics and record your 1RM's in the compound lifts so you can compare.