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| Swifty |
Posted: Jun 12 2008, 09:55 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 145 Member No.: 56860 Joined: 4-January 05 |
I'm about to start working out again. In the past i use to just do random exercises for a different muscle 5 days a week.
example: mon - chest, tues - legs, wed - traps, etc. I never had a set routine excpet for what day i worked which muscle group. Now, i'm trying to have something more structured. Is it smart to just do all compound movements for each muscle group to bulk up? I don't want just a chunky look though. I'm affraid if i do all compound movements thats the look i'm going to achieve. Any insight? -------------------- "A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you in jail saying "damn that was fun."
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| Jayv24 |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 02:22 AM
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![]() I'm Going to Kill you! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1178 Member No.: 103548 Joined: 19-February 06 |
Hows about hitting 2 muscle groups per day.
A 3 on/1 off example: Monday=Triceps/Chest, Tuesday=Legs/Back, Weds=Biceps/Shoulders, Thurs=Rest you could do 2 on/1 off. or even 1 on, 1 off. whatever is good for you. experiment until you find your thing. You should incorperate deadlifts and squats into the mix. Those 2 will put on the real mass. So what do you mean by chunky? Did You mean bulky? A lot of the so called Bodybuilders who look like that arent on point with their diets. After realizing it takes some discipline and self-control to eat clean and they cant for the life of them do so, they then call themselves "powerlifters." This phenomenon occurs usually after a bulking cycle gone wrong, in which the blubbed subject cannot rebound from because they lack discipline. i digress..... Compounds wont give you a blubbed appearance, eating like a Fat ass, not doing cardio and giving up on yourself by labeling yourself a "Powerlifter" will. Do your compounds bro, theyre great...but alternate with isolation exercises too. -------------------- |
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| Swifty |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 03:59 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 145 Member No.: 56860 Joined: 4-January 05 |
i tried the 2 muscle groups a day in the past but i would be in the gym for about 2 hours. I was always told that any longer than 1 hour in the gym is not a good thing. Should i do deadlifts & squats twice a week? My bi's are a pain in the a$$ to get growing as well.
-------------------- "A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you in jail saying "damn that was fun."
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| azfittrainer |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 07:40 PM
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![]() I have come here to do two things, kick ass, and chew bubble gum Group: Advanced Members Posts: 12509 Member No.: 51161 Joined: 16-November 04 |
Look at how powerlifters and strongman train, multi joint all compound, and they are huge.
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| Swifty |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:20 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 145 Member No.: 56860 Joined: 4-January 05 |
they are big but they don't have alot of deffenition.
-------------------- "A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you in jail saying "damn that was fun."
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| azfittrainer |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:40 PM
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![]() I have come here to do two things, kick ass, and chew bubble gum Group: Advanced Members Posts: 12509 Member No.: 51161 Joined: 16-November 04 |
Thats because of diet. The only difference between them and BB'rs is diet. Off season IFBB pro's are just as smooth.
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| Swifty |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 10:46 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 145 Member No.: 56860 Joined: 4-January 05 |
what do you think about every other day with 2 muscle groups a day? How do you guys do that with out spending 2 hours in the gym?
-------------------- "A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you in jail saying "damn that was fun."
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| azfittrainer |
Posted: Jun 13 2008, 11:14 PM
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![]() I have come here to do two things, kick ass, and chew bubble gum Group: Advanced Members Posts: 12509 Member No.: 51161 Joined: 16-November 04 |
Do lots of body parts, and you'll do more work in less time
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| bsLurch |
Posted: Jun 18 2008, 02:45 AM
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![]() Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Member No.: 224902 Joined: 4-February 08 |
You dont have to lift in high volume to build mass , you have to go heavy. For example on chest day, do flat bench, incline bench and finish with cable flies till it burns. right now im doing a bulk up type workout, 2 on 1 off. chest/bi's. back/tris. shoulders/traps/abs. (no legs yet becasue of a recent injury that has prohibited me from doing them). But evrybody is different and you just have to kind of play around with routines and rest days to see what works for you. 3-4 different exercises for each body part with 1-3 mins between sets and heavy weight should be a good starting point.
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| Waves |
Posted: Jun 30 2008, 12:51 PM
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das a good routine..but dont i have to lift each body part twice a week? to bulk up or is it better liftin OD killin it once a week and das it? b.c i use to do chest Mondays and then again on wensday bc by wensday i wasnt sore i was good to go.
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| Lorken |
Posted: Jul 1 2008, 01:19 PM
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![]() AFK SFW Group: Advanced Members Posts: 213 Member No.: 209453 Joined: 31-October 07 |
I'd suggest a whole body split. You should only do isolation once you know what you need to isolate. Compounds should be the basis of every routine, IMO.
PLEASE don't do the typical *12 set bicep 3x/week* everyone in the gym seems to be doing! If you want big biceps, you need to lift some HEAVY weights! You can't get big lifting the same 25lb dumbbells! So if you want to lift heavier, try strengthening your posterior chain! You'll be able to get more weight up there! Counterintuitive, I know, but try it! Hypertrophy is not just a localized occurrence! Starting with a big compound lift every workout (dead, squat, bench, chin), and do isolation after that. I usually base the rest of my workout around the compound. So if I do bench, I'll do shoulders too. If I do dead, I'll do other hamstring lifts. If I do chin, I'll add more back work in, or maybe some bicep (not often though, just don't have time for it). You might try looking for a pre-planned routine to start out with, but after a while, you'll see that one routine won't fit everyone, and you'll have to customize it. I like to read a lot about lifting theory, rather than just doing prefab routines. That way I know WHY something works, and HOW to make changes to it to continue progress. Rather than just being spoon fed something. -------------------- ![]() |
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| accent115 |
Posted: Jul 1 2008, 08:17 PM
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Guru Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1796 Member No.: 120938 Joined: 1-July 06 |
Barbells are for bulking, dumbbells are for cutting. Simple as that.
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| rbrooks656 |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 02:06 AM
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Newbie Group: Advanced Members Posts: 87 Member No.: 137548 Joined: 14-January 07 |
Compounds are key. Deadlifts, Benches, Squats, Overhead Press, Bent Row, and Chinups/Pullups.. all key foundations to a great lifting program. Far too often less experienced lifters believe they are getting less of a workout if they're not focusing on specific groups. Start by building yourself up with compound exercises and then introduce focused lifts --
EX: Chinups x 6/5/4/3/2 Bent Barbell Row x 3-4 sets Cable Row/Dumbbell Row 3-4 sets THEN Barbell Curl/Hammer Curl/Preacher Curl "in that order" 3x8-10 each Your body will trigger more growth if you start by getting yourself going with a big compound exercise. Most people can get by simply on those compounds alone starting off, as no matter what you do, you're going to get stronger regardless. Doing compound exercises will make sure you build a stronger base and progress more smoothly later on. And 2 hours is too long, it shouldn't take you more than 1 hour to execute this. After an hour your body is going to begin to release cortisol? due to stress, and then you're just wasting your time. Hit the weights hard, time yourself in between sets, and get out. I've progressed personally from 1 on 1 off to now 3 on 1 off. It's something you have to feel out. Remember you grow when you're resting -------------------- ![]() |
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| Primalheatstroke |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 03:27 PM
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![]() Don't agree with me, I already hate you! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 386 Member No.: 59537 Joined: 17-January 05 |
-------------------- "The only easy day, was yesterday!" "Honor, Courage, Commitment" "Non Sibi Sed Patiae!" "Force Protection On the Move" "Anywhere, Anytime, Any Task...Nothing but Excellence!" "peace through strength" "Don't tread on Me" "I've not yet begun to fight" "Potius Mori Quam Foedar" "anytime, anywhere, always ready, always there!" "In God we trust, all others we monitor" "Lead, Follow, Or get the fuck out of the way!" |
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| tree33 |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 05:04 PM
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wow what a stupid post. -------------------- |
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| accent115 |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 05:18 PM
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You're probably one of those morons that thinks diets makes abs. 500 crunches twice a day is all you need folks, and dumbbells. |
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| tree33 |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 07:37 PM
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I know how to drop bodyfat, cut carbs and lots of cardio on top of lifting weights. -------------------- |
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| bsLurch |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 07:59 PM
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![]() Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Member No.: 224902 Joined: 4-February 08 |
Abs are ONLY made from your diet. Keep doing 500 crunches a day and go to Mcdonalds a couple times a week and see what happens.
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6'6".........................6'6" 185lbs.....................270lbs solid I dont take days off. |
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| rbrooks656 |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 08:28 PM
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Newbie Group: Advanced Members Posts: 87 Member No.: 137548 Joined: 14-January 07 |
I say best bet would be to dangle the Big Mac at the height of your crunch, so that you can facilitate eating and crunching at the same time. And when you're not crunching, get yourself one of those gazelle cardio machines!
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| accent115 |
Posted: Jul 2 2008, 08:48 PM
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You couldn't be any wronger, situps burn stomach fat. |
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