is it out yet?

i was thinking the same thing ????

I just finished my test bottle last week so I doubt its on the shelf yet, although I'd check Applied's website.

Any word Vin?


Have you guys tried the original? I loved it, really its all I'd take for Creatine products anymore. The new one did give a few extra benefits though like extra strength, and a bit more vascularity & energy so it'll be nice once its full circle. But both's pumps/hardness were ridiculous!

Nothing like finishing preacher curls and my arms feel like there are softballs under my skin. Good god yes!

How about a Neovar, Drive and RPM stack?

I am hoping within a couple weeks guys...... we have been awaiting the capsules arrival. It's taking longer to have them custom matched to our label than anticipated.

As for a stack deal... that would be BN.com's call. Feel free to let them know how you feel..... good people running the store who may take your wishes into account

Final reformulated Neovar is virtually ready to go.... same capsule count, MUCH cooler packaging, more effective product scientifically and in use, and CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!

count me in for free samples.

Me too

When doesit come on sale in the UK????????

I'll have to check on that one.... our distributors there would make their own timeline of sorts....

What's shipping from the U.S. cost to get to the UK?

No doubt, cannot wait to run a full month of all 3. Could also throw in IGF-2 and gains should be insane. As far as all 3 stacked in one price, that would be cool but probably hard to do. Since Drive/RPM is already discounted and Neovar is going to be cheaper as it is. But thats up to Bulk so it probably is possible.

I've ran Drive/RPM and NeoVar/RPM, and then just a taste of the new NeoVar/Drive/RPM maybe like 2 weeks of all 3 but when it was all together.....strength, hardness, pump were kicking beyond my expectations of what natural supplements can do. Even 2 products stacked effects are amplified, you know Applied has done their homework when stacking products only adds stronger effects = better gains.

I'd say methylated hormonal products are done. Atleast I am done with them, the gains I make with Applied's products are similar enough where its not worth the risks anymore. On top of that the gains are real, not water based and you know your body is running at full strength naturally. No risks, no wondering if you are doing more damage than good, and you feel awesome.


I have yet to try IGF-2 but considering how well the rest of the products work, its a no brainer for me.

I have a strange feeling neovar will be available soooon.....

Ben, I might be able to come up with an "IGF-2 solo for 3 weeks then add in Neovar" log in the near future

Im not too sure i think its about $40 or something but then i have to pay income tax on the package too which is about $65

Awesome! AP is by far the best supplement company out there. I can only really say that there have been 3 supplements that i would buy again: Jungle Warfare, RPM, and Leviathan.

As soon as the new Neovar hits the shelf im buying it!

Its actually amazing to look at products like these that actually work and are being sold at almost 1/4 of the price of other rubbish products by Muscletech, BSN etc

Good point on prices and supps that work, Doogsy.


With your top three supps, have you ran Drive yet? RPM is great for me, just mad amounts of energy to do work. But once I add Drive into the equation, my strength levels just skyrocket, and pumps get lethal. I do get some GI issues but once I get my sweet spot for dosage, its awesome. The thing that gets me is, I'm underdosing each product by a pill or 2 at both times during the day yet I'm feeling it more than anything else I've tried.

This past run bumped me up to sets of 275x10 on my bench press, which is up by 4 reps in each set. 225x10 on inclines feel like warmup sets now. The only thing thats ever made me feel the same is PheraMax, but why run that with the risks of gyno, liver/kidney damage, and lower natural Test levels?!!!

Also have you ran the original NeoVar? I've ran CEE in bulk before, but there is a major difference between the two. I've had some of the hardest pumps on both the original and new formulas. But the new stuff just seemed quicker to feel and more amplified effects.

Its just the RPM ive tried but as soon as i get some spare cash im ordering Drive and Neovar

Now's your chance guys...... Order soon to participate in the special promo!!!!!!!!

sounds good if they get more in soon. what about free samples?

It's about time you guys changed the labels

The new Neovar look's badass

IN STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I foresee some decent gains of strength in your future!!! Which strength only = size!

I certainly hope so. Bring new intensity to these chest workouts