omg thats fuckin gross...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2jvGa8UYw&feature=related

Seen multiple people using the "overhand" grip on sumo. Any benefit to that, as opposed to "over-under"?

i do over hand under hand...for bent over barbell rows...shrugs and sumo's....it just doesn't feel like it is going to slip as much

He's using wrist straps. A double over hand grip will only be usefull with a lot of weight, without straps, is if you you also use the hook grip with it. Basicly placing your thumbs under your fingers. Hurts like hell but people say eventually the thumb's nerve endings get used to it.

A big benifit of the double over hand hook grip is that it takes a lot of the load that could be put on the biceps off which can cause a tear or rupture.

I always use the double over hand grip.

With straps or with out? Double over hand with out the hook on realy heavy deads is really impressive grip strength if you're doing that.

With straps.

I go no straps, over-under, sumo.

no straps over-under here too. I'll train both sumo and conv. Compete sumo. I'm to much of a wuss to do the hook grip but would like to try. I get up to around 225 and it just starts hurting like a SOB.

When you do the over under you really have to make sure you keep the arms as straight as possible keeping the tension through out the arms. Do NOT try to bend them as thats when the under side really strains the bicep and could tear. It's really easy to try as it's natural to do so when trying to lock out heavier weights.

Great advice. I actually did DL's with a powerlifter in my gym (rare) and he helped me with that same thing. "You realize you just lifted all that with your arms, right?" and I've been hangin em straight ever since. Once you get the grip part of it down (still a weakpoint for me) its a much easier and more natural lift, just using the lower back, glutes, hams to drive upward.

What do you guys think about using the trap bar for deads? I remember TAC saying that it is a good idea for tall guys.

would love to have a trap bar myself to train with as just another variation to use.

Trap Bar <----- that thing looks pretty cool, would love to check one out. Can't see my Ballys getting one anytime soon though.

Set 1 is double overhand, SLDL. Sets 2+ are over-under, alternating which hands are over-under, regular DL. My ankle feels funky trying sumo (splintered most of the bones in my right ankle almost 2 years ago). Any non-standard directional force on my ankle still doesn't feel right given I have a 7" titanium plate and 8x3" screws still in me.

Regarding the OP -- yeah, I was getting mad lower back pumps from deads when I first started them. Got up to 315 after 2 months and popped (strained) something. 135 was hard after a month off, but quickly got back up over 225. Careful with how fast you go up in weight so you don't experience my misfortune. Hitting such an underutilized muscle is gunna remind you just how much it isn't used. A good precursor to the deadlift are hyperextensions. Do these for a couple weeks until you can safely hold a 45 plate. Helped me a lot before starting deads.

Actually the Trap Bar is Young Jeezys fav drinkin place.

I do sumo style, double over hand, I was never a fan of over-under.

I try to do over-hand because you feel it in the forearms a lot more as well.

When you're working back and not concerned with hitting hamstrings, do y'all think rack pulls would be just as good as full deads?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6C1zKLPjN4&feature=related

Check out this bitch. 550 DL!

same girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2V2g_cl-MM&feature=related