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| Succio |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 12:42 PM
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-------------------- ![]() As a young lifter, I remember going into the gym and seeing some really big, strong dudes lifting heavy weights, clapping chalk, and making a lot of noise. The music playing on the stereo made you want to work out the moment you walked inside. This has been replaced by a bunch of pencil neck “trainers” with extra-medium muscle shirts and small shorts running around with clipboards having their clients balance on top of a swimming pool ball, juggle dumbbells, and recite their ABCs backwards. - Paul Caldwell |
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| JW32Hoops |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 01:09 PM
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![]() Damn it feels good to be a gangsta Group: Advanced Members Posts: 7843 Member No.: 139275 Joined: 31-January 07 |
Great article. The other article they link in the beginning is great too.
When it comes to form, I noticed I've been angling my feet outwards a bit and my legs bend that way too, kinda bowlegged like a frog almost. Is that OK? -------------------- |
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| Succio |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 01:14 PM
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i assume you're pulling sumo? yea your feet are suppose to be pointin outwards a bit. -------------------- ![]() As a young lifter, I remember going into the gym and seeing some really big, strong dudes lifting heavy weights, clapping chalk, and making a lot of noise. The music playing on the stereo made you want to work out the moment you walked inside. This has been replaced by a bunch of pencil neck “trainers” with extra-medium muscle shirts and small shorts running around with clipboards having their clients balance on top of a swimming pool ball, juggle dumbbells, and recite their ABCs backwards. - Paul Caldwell |
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| JW32Hoops |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 01:31 PM
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![]() Damn it feels good to be a gangsta Group: Advanced Members Posts: 7843 Member No.: 139275 Joined: 31-January 07 |
I don't know what "pulling sumo" is. I've only started deadlifting a month ago. I feel like I use my back a bit more than my legs, but other than that, it feels OK. What is the difference b/w "sumo" and "regular" deadlifting?
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| Succio |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 01:54 PM
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sumo is when your pulling in a wide stance
conventional, is this -------------------- ![]() As a young lifter, I remember going into the gym and seeing some really big, strong dudes lifting heavy weights, clapping chalk, and making a lot of noise. The music playing on the stereo made you want to work out the moment you walked inside. This has been replaced by a bunch of pencil neck “trainers” with extra-medium muscle shirts and small shorts running around with clipboards having their clients balance on top of a swimming pool ball, juggle dumbbells, and recite their ABCs backwards. - Paul Caldwell |
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| Jason2459 |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 02:07 PM
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@ kdkdkdkdkdkdkdk
Skimmed through the article and so for it seems pretty good. @JW Sumo: http://www.weighttrainersunited.com/sumo.html http://ironscene.com/view_video.php?viewke...aec1b6444b22ea9 http://ironscene.com/view_video.php?viewke...843ee2adaaa91cc Conventional: http://www.weighttrainersunited.com/convdeadlift.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tOxtGCrx4s -------------------- My Journal: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=33911
My Training Vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/jason24590 My Westside Template: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35744 How To Make 1,2,3,4 Boards: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35926 Past Meets: NASA Iowa Regional Oct '07: 419/254/441 1114 UPA Midwest Jan '08: -------- 452/303/463 1218 NASA Iowa State April'08:---- 485/309/485 1279 Currently Training for: NASA Iowa Regional Championship October 2008 Sponsors: APT Pro Lifting Gear / World Record Proven! http://www.prowriststraps.com New Horizons Computer Learning Center http://www.newhorizons.com |
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| JW32Hoops |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 02:08 PM
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![]() Damn it feels good to be a gangsta Group: Advanced Members Posts: 7843 Member No.: 139275 Joined: 31-January 07 |
My feet aren't as far apart as the sumo picture, but they bend outward.
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| Tyler43769 |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 08:48 PM
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![]() curanus Group: Advanced Members Posts: 311 Member No.: 43769 Joined: 19-September 04 |
ya ive seen that called frog style
ive seen some big guys use it they squat down and grab the bar inside their legs and they just look like a frog -------------------- You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think.
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| unstable |
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 10:40 PM
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| Vadha Man |
Posted: Apr 2 2007, 10:09 AM
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I like the conventional way, i think i would be too afraid to try it the sumo way with the risk of injuring my back. -------------------- [/QUOTE]
A fight is not won by one punch or kick. Either learn to endure or hire a bodyguard. Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. -bruce lee [QUOTE] “How much can you know about yourself if you've never been in a fight?” -tyler durdan |
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| SFW_SFW |
Posted: May 2 2007, 01:00 AM
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"Let's get serious." Group: Advanced Members Posts: 596 Member No.: 135863 Joined: 26-December 06 |
best shit ive ever read... thanks
i prefer conventional too, -------------------- "You don't have to be blood to be family."
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| Jason2459 |
Posted: May 2 2007, 08:12 AM
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The sumo stance has a LOT less preasure on the lower back and hits the hips/glutes a lot more. Sumo has many advantages over conventional. Less strain on the lower back, easier to maintain a tight arch in the lower back, and less distance to pull. The thing is with sumo is that it does require a lot of hip/glut/ham strength because that is where the preasure is. Also, why more people don't use sumo is that it requires a very precise technique to lift heavy. When doing light weight it is really easy to keep form but when going heavy everything usually goes to crap for most any lift. Sumo requires a lot of technique and if you don't have the form down on the heaviest of lifts, you'll miss very very easily. With conventional if your form slips a little it's a lot easier to pull yourself back together. With sumo it's all over witih. A person could hit a PR of 500 one day then struggle with 400 later on because the form is off. -------------------- My Journal: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=33911
My Training Vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/jason24590 My Westside Template: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35744 How To Make 1,2,3,4 Boards: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35926 Past Meets: NASA Iowa Regional Oct '07: 419/254/441 1114 UPA Midwest Jan '08: -------- 452/303/463 1218 NASA Iowa State April'08:---- 485/309/485 1279 Currently Training for: NASA Iowa Regional Championship October 2008 Sponsors: APT Pro Lifting Gear / World Record Proven! http://www.prowriststraps.com New Horizons Computer Learning Center http://www.newhorizons.com |
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| Succio |
Posted: Apr 13 2008, 04:51 PM
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bump
-------------------- ![]() As a young lifter, I remember going into the gym and seeing some really big, strong dudes lifting heavy weights, clapping chalk, and making a lot of noise. The music playing on the stereo made you want to work out the moment you walked inside. This has been replaced by a bunch of pencil neck “trainers” with extra-medium muscle shirts and small shorts running around with clipboards having their clients balance on top of a swimming pool ball, juggle dumbbells, and recite their ABCs backwards. - Paul Caldwell |
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| Will109090 |
Posted: Apr 30 2008, 11:11 PM
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Great article.
Can't wait to start deadlifting again. I'm going to go real light for about 2-3 weeks starting this Friday. I'm doing FB workouts on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays since I'm trying to cut right now. But Fridays will mainly consist of deadlifts and DB shoulder presses. |
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| JW32Hoops |
Posted: Apr 30 2008, 11:55 PM
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![]() Damn it feels good to be a gangsta Group: Advanced Members Posts: 7843 Member No.: 139275 Joined: 31-January 07 |
"I don't know what 'pulling sumo' is"
Hahaha...so funny to see my posts from a year ago when I didn't know ass about deadlifting. I've since gone all sumo, all the way. Legs as wide as the plates, over/under grip, hands inside stance. -------------------- |
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| willpiazza31 |
Posted: May 1 2008, 08:53 AM
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![]() blubbed with 34 inch arms baby!!! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 25756 Member No.: 53629 Joined: 7-December 04 |
that's cause you're a faggot pussy noob
-goodskie & typerob -------------------- "Anyway, it's not what spews out of her mouth that matters, it's what you spew into her mouth."
-Roids "im half a fag...u complete ASS" -bomb_r2 |
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| Jason2459 |
Posted: May 2 2008, 09:19 AM
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-Doogsy -------------------- My Journal: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=33911
My Training Vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/jason24590 My Westside Template: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35744 How To Make 1,2,3,4 Boards: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35926 Past Meets: NASA Iowa Regional Oct '07: 419/254/441 1114 UPA Midwest Jan '08: -------- 452/303/463 1218 NASA Iowa State April'08:---- 485/309/485 1279 Currently Training for: NASA Iowa Regional Championship October 2008 Sponsors: APT Pro Lifting Gear / World Record Proven! http://www.prowriststraps.com New Horizons Computer Learning Center http://www.newhorizons.com |
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| cc-10 |
Posted: May 2 2008, 07:10 PM
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![]() When war is in your blood killing is as easy as breathing. Group: Advanced Members Posts: 9666 Member No.: 72071 Joined: 25-April 05 |
Solutions: Speed pulls are your best friend. Start with as little as 40% 1RM initially, but work in the 50-60% range for the vast majority of the time. Going to 70% is pushing it, but it's been done. Some lifters have found that conventional plyometric exercises can help, although I don't feel they hold a candle to speed pulls from a specificity standpoint.
sounds like something i should be doing what about hitting some rack pulls then finishing off w/ some speed pulls next week? any ideas on how to do speed pulls I take it fewer time between sets than between heavier weight.... -------------------- ![]() lifting and women my two priorities in life! |
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| yeashescool |
Posted: May 2 2008, 09:03 PM
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![]() BEAST Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1883 Member No.: 132198 Joined: 6-November 06 |
i think its just banging out reps reall quick, while maintaining good form tho
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| Jason2459 |
Posted: May 2 2008, 09:25 PM
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DE work is all about speed with yes proper form. DE work is also done with very few reps.
Typical DE work would depending on the percentages is around 10 sets with 2 reps each. Here's a good video of a DE DL session by Derek Wilcox a 165lbs elite lifter. Notice there is a quick reset between reps. It's not touch and go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INdj26homNA -------------------- My Journal: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=33911
My Training Vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/jason24590 My Westside Template: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35744 How To Make 1,2,3,4 Boards: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=35926 Past Meets: NASA Iowa Regional Oct '07: 419/254/441 1114 UPA Midwest Jan '08: -------- 452/303/463 1218 NASA Iowa State April'08:---- 485/309/485 1279 Currently Training for: NASA Iowa Regional Championship October 2008 Sponsors: APT Pro Lifting Gear / World Record Proven! http://www.prowriststraps.com New Horizons Computer Learning Center http://www.newhorizons.com |
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