6-OXO

Which is prefered for a post M1T cycle? Can you use both at the same time? Where is the best places you can get these substances?

Thanks Guys

Anti-aromatase (arimidex, femara, exemestane, 6-oxo) are preferrable during the cycle as an anti-estrogen, while a receptor blocker - or SERM (Nolvadex, Clomid) is preferrable for post-cycle recovery. Anti-aromatase is potentially counterproductive post-cycle for a bunch of reasons.


During the cycle, when on aromatizing androgens, estrogen levels might skyrocket. Even on dosages in the 200-300mg/week range, estrogen levels might triple. So you use an anti-aromatase such as Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin to limit estrogen conversion, thus bringing levels down to the high-normal range. What dosage you need is highly individual, and should preferably be ascertained via blood tests. Some estrogen is good, a lot of estrogen not so good - water retention, gyno, reduced libido, high bp etc... Anti-aromatase is not necessary when using non-aromatizables, of course.

Post-cycle you do not want an anti-aromatase. As androgen levels drop, you want to kickstart your endogenous T production as soon as possible. SHBG binds free testosterone, thus limiting bioavailable T. Using an anti-aromatase post-cycle will reduce SHBG, thus freeing up more bioavailable T. This might sound like a good thing, but via the HPTA feedback loop, you would get premature inhibition of T production before total T has had a chance to recover. So you have a situation of low-normal bioavailable T but low total T. This has been confirmed several times in blood tests.

Using a SERM, such as Clomid or Nolvadex is a better idea. This is because they act as estrogens in some tissues, while blocking estrogen in others. SHBG stays elevated, but you still get the anti-estrogenic effect at the hypothalamus and pituitary, thus allowing endogenous T (both free and total) to return to normal.

Having used intermittent, low-dosage HCG during the cycle would also ensure that your testes are ready and able to produce testosterone when the post-cycle LH surge hits.

Id prefer nolvadex since it is cheaper...

Best place to get Nolva?

No source posting, if someone is nice enough they will shoot you a PM. I am far too much of an asshole for that though.

Fpot66

So are nolva and clomid controlled substances that must be obtained on the black market or are they freely available as supplements?

If they're controlled, then what's the point of using them with legal PH's? Why not go all the way and get the real thing?