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| Posted by: jerry116916 Nov 29 2006, 03:48 AM |
| [PRODUCT]2231[/PRODUCT] I have gone through nearly an entire bottle of venom. As far as fat loss it has worked great, like I have never seen before, but about half way through the bottle I started to notice an odd tightness in my chest that I have never experienced before. This is the only product I was using at the time with the exception of a multivitamin (Animal Pak), which I take about every three days. I stopped taking Venom to see if there was a correlation and about 3 or 4 days later everything seemed to return to normal. Just wanting to know if anyone else has had any weird side effects from this product. Before any one thinks I am an old fat guy that has never ran a mile and is on the verge of heart attack : I have never had any health problems, I am 22, I run 2 days a week (3 mile sessions) and lift 2 or 3 of the other days of the week. I am in the military and have undergone several physicals and been deemed in very good health. I have always eaten pretty healthy (my parents were huge health nuts), I take my vitamins, I drink my gallon of water every day, I don't smoke, I drink on occasion and when I do it is moderate. I am about 185lbs, and around 13%, 5'8''. |
| Posted by: mild7 Nov 29 2006, 08:02 AM |
| not all the time but sometimes, when i take it on huge work outs, and soon after during my rest i feel lost "running out of time"/slightly depressed. An urge of just wanting to do something. |
| Posted by: Purge Apr 1 2007, 12:29 PM |
| Hey guys--any idea how much caffeine is in this? I was eyeing it. |
| Posted by: brahmabull Apr 1 2007, 06:11 PM |
| It seems to me you may have had some palpitations or some dysrrhythmia during the time you were taking this stuff. Venom has extremely high levels of caffiene and theophylline in plant extract form. Basically, a single dose is like taking about 5 cups of coffee in a time-released manner. The only way your going to combat this side effect is to take some type of beta-blocker to prevent your heart from racing a 100 miles an hour. By the way, do you take your heart rate during the time your on the shit. My guess is no. I take a heart medication that slows my heart down and is really helpful when i need to take stimulants to get me going in the gym. So, i can feel jacked in the gym and not have to worry about getting a heart attack (NICE!!). Oh, by the way, i run 6 miles a week and 3 miles eliptical cardio plus weight train 2 x a week too. So, it doesn't really matter if your healthy before you take stuff like this. Shit, look at Len Bias's ass. He keeled over from a heart attack and he was pretty healthy. Heart attacks can happen to anyone regardless of one's health. Yes, individuals who have a family history of heart disease have a higher chance of getting heart attacks. But, strokes can happen due to external factors such as stress, smoking, physical exertion, and yes...stimulants. And if your hopped up on giggers without using anything to protect your heart, you'll be dead before you know it. Believe me, extremely powerful giggers can destroy a healthy heart faster than a thick burger from Hardees. The bull has spoken 181 lbs; 5'6 and a half ; and 13% |
| Posted by: JTILK Apr 1 2007, 07:11 PM |
| Venom does have alot of caffeine in it. Gave me a headache somewhat when I was coming down. By the way Len Bias' heartattack was due to a cocaine overdose, that does have a slight tendency to get your heartrate up, I would imagine a little more than just caffeine. |
| Posted by: TommyD Apr 2 2007, 08:15 AM |
| I got nauseous taking it...only because I'm up @ 4am to go to the gym and the only thing I have in my gut at this time is a little coffee and maybe some excess post w/o shake that didn't fit into my bottle. For me I definitely have to follow the instructions about having some food in me. |
| Posted by: Patrick145053 Apr 2 2007, 10:13 AM | ||
whats a "gigger" |
| Posted by: brahmabull Apr 4 2007, 05:51 PM |
| The word "giggers" is a slang bodybuilding term that defines any type of chemical or nonsynthetic substance that "gigs" or increases one's heart rate, respiratory rate, level of consciousness, or metabolism to a level that's above normal for a healthy individual. This term has been used many times to describe a person's hyperactivity as well. For example, one could say, " That dude is all gigged up on some stuff." This means that the guy is on something that's making him act really hyper and strung out like a crack addict. |
| Posted by: Talisman Apr 5 2007, 03:07 PM |
| DID YOU START WITH ONE CAPSULE?? im 17 and kinda wanna take this...looks pretty cool. NOt the heart palipitation part, but maybe if you eat solid food and then take it ull be better off? or maybe that eac stack?? ima gonna look int why ephedra was banned.... actually im not gonna take venom...reviews disturbing. |
| Posted by: patriotic1 Apr 14 2007, 03:31 PM |
| I've been taking venom hyperdrive & also venom special tactics for quite awhile now & I love it! I haven't noticed any negative side effects. Other than it doesn't seem to work as well if I go long periods without eating. - I'm talking it's dinnertime & you suddenly realize you haven't eaten since yesterday. A quick bite & I'm back up to par. I do occasionally have chest pains but was told it was anxiety - I had nothing to be anxious about though, so I don't know. I've had all kids of tests run on my heart & it just runs really fast all the time no matter how relaxed I am, with or without supplements. They call it tachycardia, but say nothing's wrong with me. If you were halfway through your bottle, I would guess it was something else - anxiety perhaps? If you don't like it though, stop takin it. I'd be happy to help out with your leftovers  I take my vitamins too & drink plenty of water. I'm no longer in the military, but I still do my p.t. |
| Posted by: warsteiner Apr 19 2007, 01:26 PM |
| Venom definately does work but there are just too many side effects for my liking. I'm susceptable to stims and this product was just too strong for me. I was using it on a 3 day on, 3 day off cycle and even then I was struggling to sleep after doing this cycle twice. I'd wake up at 4am and be raring to go and then would have a bit of a crash at about 2pm. I also found that this product affected my libido. I originally put this down to training hard and the reduced calorie intake but after hearing that other people experienced the same thing I'm not too sure. One wierd side effect was depression  After a couple of cycles I found that the first day off this product I would become quite depressed. We're not talking suicidal but there was a definite 'low' mood and normally I'm a pretty happy guy. |
| Posted by: Marine_86 Apr 20 2007, 03:12 PM |
| It's a strong stimulant, one of the few I really can feel! side-effects that I have are loss of libido, dick shrinks and sometimes a headache |
| Posted by: Stephen1557 Apr 20 2007, 03:34 PM |
| The stuff flat out gives me depression. It must be affecting serotonin levels to some extent. It happens to me 100 percent of the time within 2 or 3 days of starting.<br> After i posted this i notice another poster claiming the same thing and i can TOTALLY relate. I can not take this product. |
| Posted by: gb111 May 21 2007, 05:06 AM |
| Iv just got some of this and was wondering is it safe to take it with beta blockers..Iv suffered from anxiety for the last 5 yrs [Not anxious about anything just get the symptoms like my heart racing for no reason] I take prescribed beta blockers Inderal for this and want to know if its safe to take venom hyperdrive while taking these..would it be better to only take half a capsule a day instead |
| Posted by: larobin Dec 20 2007, 10:53 AM |
| I just tried Venom for the 1st time, after 10 days I had to go off of it. I was only taking one a day and my breathing got worse and worse. I was yawning all the time to try and get a deep breath. I have been off of it for only a day and my breathing has gotten a bit better. I lost 15lbs in those 10 days. I'm in really good shape and workout 3-5 days a week, eat well and am 31yrs old. Since I have started this I have been jittery ever since I started it. I haven't felt like working out as I'm not able to get any good sleep. I have felt spacy and irritable. It's really too bad as I like the results but can't deal with the side effects. |
| Posted by: Carl148973 Jan 4 2008, 05:20 PM |
| I have tried Venom and it is by far the best fat burner I have tried to date, and I have tried quite a few. No other supplement gives me the energy and completely erases any appetite I may have had like Venom. I find myself eating only for something to do as I don't have the desire to eat. I did cycle the supplement on using it on days I play ball or heavy leg days. I do notice a rebound effect where my appetite is out of control when I am off of it for a few days. If you can tolerate this supplement by far one of the best. <br><br> I do have an open question to anyone who may be able to respond. I have noticed a definate decrease in libido and I don't want to say shrinkage but a "retraction" of the testicles from using this supplement. This may possibly be from the supplements affect on the prostate, this is only a guess. Can anyone provide any anwers on this? I read a review to this effect as well:<br>http://www.bulknutrition.com/product_reviews_info.php?reviews_id=12987<br><br>Can anyone provide any opinions on this, and how to possibly remedy the situation? |
| Posted by: PoppinFresh Jan 4 2008, 06:57 PM |
| After taking a bottle of Venom 3.0 I experienced several side effects regularly. Slight acid reflux, minor depressive mood swings, headaches, the "giggers" and nausea. Honestly, when I took this before a workout I wasn't able to focus for beans. I never made it past a cap a day. DAY. That stuff got me wired. I am 5'10 180 ~15%. Lipo6 was leagues more helpful. Venom just fucked me up. I would sweat during lecture just because of one cap, no other thermogenics. The scariest part was the mood swings and the reflux. Felt like I had heart burn about 30% of the time when I was on it, and sometimes the mood swings were so bad I just didn't even want to work out. Bleh. |
| Posted by: TheDiesel Jan 4 2008, 08:38 PM | ||
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| Posted by: maya238682 Mar 26 2008, 05:59 AM |
| I'm having a really hard time with this supplement. Like most people, I can't deny the effects... the effects are so addictive... addicting to the point where you try to deny the OBVIOUS side effects. Besides extreme naseau, feeling over-heated, headache, slow muscle recovery, shortness of breath both during low intensity workouts and lying in bed... it's the sleeplessness in something i cant figure out how to control. For instance.. it is almost 7am and i have been lying in bed trying to sleep since about 2am. <br><br>I really dont want to stop. im modeling and having a tool like this is invaluable. does anyone have any suggestions? ive tried sleeping pills and over exertion which make it easier to fall asleep but the most ive been able to sleep is 5 hours (a combo of interrupted hours) <br><br>Please help! e-mail me at spanknfranknsten@aol.com |
| Posted by: the bigt Mar 26 2008, 11:44 AM |
| i don't know what your age is, but some of us older guys seem to have prostate issues on venom. if you decide to take it, saw palmetto seems to help take care of that problem. |
| Posted by: cup Apr 4 2008, 05:57 AM |
| I've read that such products are especially dangerous for people that have history of smoking even if they have quit. <br><br>Are there any guidelines as to the safe use of the product by someone who has stoped smoking recently and his heart might be not as strong when he starts to practice?http://www.thestopsmokingclub.com/don-t-take-supplements-for-exercise-before-reading-this-25.html |
| Posted by: gggrover1 Apr 17 2008, 11:06 AM |
| I am 42, 6'5'', 240. i have never entered a post on a website before. Also, have never taken a product outside of a protein shake. I thought i would try Venom to lose a little more fat and did not have a problem with the dry mouth and actually thought i was focusing better. I kind of liked it UNTIL I noticed that after 2 days, MY dick shrank!!!! Two seconds later this product was in the trash. |
| Posted by: Ranel22206 Apr 17 2008, 11:16 AM |
| many says that their testicules or dick is shrinking. is it coming back because im about to start this product and dont want this effect... |
| Posted by: tywilson88 May 14 2008, 04:19 PM |
| first post, im a newb in the whole suppliment taking so i have a couple of questions. Does your shiznit go back to the same size after you stop using it? and i am taking venom3.0, as well as the vyotech 17 hd... is that ok, should i be seeing a doctor before? i have never had any health issues, but i am kinda worried about what could happen. |
| Posted by: piperbaby Jul 17 2008, 09:44 AM |
| Sorry to get on her and bother you with my silly girl questions, but I would love some advice. I started taking Venom a few days ago and love my results during the day. It has been an excellent appetite supressant for me and really helps with my energy level. The only complaint I have is the sleep issue and I hate the idea of having to stop taking it. I take one pill around 8 am in the morning and go to bed around 11 pm. For the last 2 nights, I have been barely able to sleep at all. Even OTC sleep meds do nothing. I usually do not have a reaction to caffeine like this, but maybe it is too strong for me.... So... my questions .... Does this ever get better in time? Can I do something to help combat this like drink more water? I may just half to dump half of the pill contents out if this continues (4 hours of sleep total in 2 days). I am sure part of this is mental (I am psyching myself out), but it is making me crazy. Although my heartbeat is not increasing, it is like I can feel it stronger when I am laying down at night. It is so distracting.... |
| Posted by: jeremy181 Jul 17 2008, 11:10 AM |
| hey ive been using hyperdirve for about 2/3 weeks and have seen a weightloss of around 10 lbs, exercise fairly regularly and had not experienced anyproblems untill now, i have started geting a tight chest and finding it rather hard to take deep breaths and am having to make myself take a deep lungfull of air every now and then has anyone experienced this and did it go away or did u stop using venom i dont really want to stop and it has been getting desired effects but the tightness is no fun atall. thanks for your replies (ps i am 19 yoa) |
| Posted by: Fishdog Jul 17 2008, 11:32 AM |
| Piper, you may want to try dosing it every other day. When I take it at 5 am on day one I sleep fine the first night, but take it again on day 2 at 5 am and won't be able to sleep at all the second night. I noticed though if I dose it every other day it doesn't happen. |