Piracetam Powder

has anyone gotten depress while taking piracetam?

i've never felt depresed from taking it... just less brain fog, better concentration and the like. infact i just started taking it before i play guitar at night, as well as my normal durring the day dose.

No, do you feel depressed from it?

ive heard great things about it...Never depression though . I find that would be very ironic

I take 1600mg of piracetam each day. The next day after I first took piracetam I woke up, and I felt very depressed. Any day I would be feeling good, then the next minute I feel depress. I have no major reason to feel depress. This not like normal depression. One hour I could be depress, and the next hour I could feel very good. Any simple thing could make me depress, then it suddently stops.

I've heard some guys say it makes you devoid of emotions.

yes, I have had some of those feelings, or lack there of, and I have been thinking about it recently. For me its more of a quiet emptiness than any depression, and may also show up as a lack of motivation(though I've always been a lazy SOB). However, I cannot say for certain that this is the case. I've recently gone back to living with my parents after 2 years on my own at college, and I have been trying doses of piracetam that vary and are sometimes large, I have been depressed in the past, and my mood varies somewhat depending on the last time I ran (I feel shitty after I miss a workout, though the feeling is different)

So, while I do notice piracetam's mind enhancing powers, I do believe that it may lead to a sort of unhappiness, but in my life there are too many factors to show a direct cause and effect.

ignorance is bliss, and being smarter doesn't directly correlate to being happier.

If your focus is on thinking, its quite possible that you will forget to feel. Oh yeah, also remembered that emotional responses take a few seconds: if you have already sized up the problem/situation you may have moved on to the next before you were able to gauge it for an emotional(moral) response. This problem has been posited before in relation to nootropics. Maybe this lack of emotional thinking reduces your ability when you actually try to use it.


Another possibility, though I know little about neuroscience, is that you deplete your neurotransmitters faster because more of your brain is being used. Or maybe your memories from the past are more available and not always sunny-that could be a thing for me 'cause I tend obsess about mistakes I've made or things I've regret.


my new phrase is, "Its complicated" and it seems to aply to everything.
hope this helps

Sorry if the post is off topic (I dont have the number of post to qualify as a poster) but I just started taking piracetam and I felt a bit of vertigo and balance problems. I know this might be ironic because it is supposed to help with that but I still felt it. . .I am a massage therapist and am pretty in touch with what is going on with my body---anyhow I would love to here if anyone else has had similar side effects?
thanks Zeke

Taking piracetam, and especially at higher doses, it is important to take a choline supplement. DMAE (or better yet, centrophenoxine) are probably even more effective. Not only will choline or these other cholinergenic compounds increase the effect of piracetam (possibly allowing lower doses), in addition at higher doses of piracetam intake they will prevent the depletion (due to more efficient and rapid uptake) of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine that may occur with piracetam usage, which could cause agitation and depression. Depletion of acetylcholine I've read a good ratio is 2:1 piracetam to choline (or DMAE / centrophenoxine), and in my experience this works very well, with the effect increasing in a linear fashion with dose.

Here is a neat bit of info about piracetam which describes this depression effect if piracetam is taken without choline or a cholinergenic compound:
http://www.ceri.com/noot.htm

This is insanity. First, this guy says he's suddenly depressed after taking some supplement which phucks with your mind. Then you come on here and tell him he needs to take additional mind-altering substances to help off-set his depressed feelings? Are you some evil, mad scientist?

I've got a novel idea...if you're depressed STOP TAKING THE FRIGGIN SUPPLEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you really need it? With the proper exercise regimine and diet your mind will take care of itself. No need to pop pills/powders/etc to get some perceived ''edge''.

Well, I am proud to be an evil mad scientist... but the "mad" there means angry, not crazy.

In any case, my recommendation of choline (or the related compounds I mentioned, such as DMAE and centrophenoxine) would stand even for someone that doesn't consume piracetam, or even for someone that doesn't care to receive any sort of brain boosting effects, but not in excess of about 3.5 grams a day, the tolerable upper intake for choline, above which you may experience diarrhea, low blood pressure (which is good to know if you are in fact hypertensive), and a fishy body odor, but no serious toxicity.

If you get enough choline from food sources, good for you, but it is a very good nutrient for general health and longevity purposes, used by the body for the genesis of critical neurotransmitters (hence the mind affects), and even more importantly for general health and metabolism, for the building and repair of the body cell membranes.

Here are some examples of foods that are particularly high in choline, taken from the USDA’s Database for Choline in Foods:

Beef liver - pan-fried - 100 grams (about 3.5 oz) - 418 mg
Whole large egg - 112 mg choline
Beef (ground) 80% lean/20% fat - 3.5 oz patty - 81 mg
Cauliflower - 3/4 C cooked (1" pieces) - 62 mg
Navy beans - 1/2 C cooked - 48 mg
Tofu - 100 grams (about 3.5 oz) - 28 mg
Almonds - sliced - 1/2 cup - 26 mg
Peanut butter - 2 T - 20 mg

The National Academy of Sciences recommends the following for "adequate intake" of choline:

AGE DAILY INTAKE
Infants 0-6 mos 125 mg.
7-12 mos 150 mg
Children1-3 yrs 200 mg
4-8 yrs 250 mg
Boys 9-13 yrs 375 mg
14-18 yrs 550 mg
Girls 9-13 yrs 375 mg
14-18 yrs 440 mg
Men 550 mg
Women 425 mg
Pregnant 450 mg
Lactating 550 mg

So it may not be so insane to make sure you get enough of this stuff, if not from food, then from supplements, especially if you are taking piracetam, that acts to quickly use up choline (in fact, that may be a large factor causing its effects).

I have the exact opposite reaction to piracetam. I take it with one capsule of choline in the morning, then again at bedtime, 2400 mg (1 tablespoon) each time.
I used to wake up every morning with a general feeling of 'oh shit'; now it's more like <trumpet>do do do doot, do dooooo</trumpet>"GOOD MORNING!! (IMG:http://forums.bulknutrition.com/html/emoticons/smile.gif)"
It's great; it's been years since I awaken with that feeling naturally. It's great to have it back.

There are so many different combinations of mind supplements out there, you should just try a new combo until you find something that works for you.

Or... this is cynical but whatever, if you seriously are depressed to the point of it being a medical condition, you should try to get a Rx for Adderall. A very powerful stimulant that would be great for cutting... just a thought

This may be a little bit off topic, I don't have enough posts so I can't start a new thread. Does anyone have an idea what piracetam does for ADD. I was diagnosed with ADD a few years ago, and although I've made a lot of progress with my concentration issues, it seemed like piracetam and choline would be a good aid. anyone know or have enough experience to formulate a good guess?

are you on any prescription meds for the add? if you are already taking concerta/adderall/etc. i can't imagine it would provide much additional effect. if you are trying to avoid prescription meds it might be a good option, though i have little experience with nootropics

Not off topic at all.

I'm currently on Ritalin. I switch back and forth between Ritalin and Adderall every few months, with Adderall being my favorite. I just do it because I get "used to" each drug.

Im about to try Piracetam and Choline again, so I'll post back what happens when you take it with an ADD Rx. Should be interesting....I'm not doing it for long, as I'm trying to get off of Rx anyways. Stupid drug companies can suck it.

If you think it's making you depressed, the smart thing to do would be to stop taking it. If it's anything like phenibut, it can make you depressed if you use it more than a coupla days in a row.