I love the fact that you guys offer Piracetam powder but I've been looking into Piracetam-like compounds simply so I don't have to taste so much bitter substance (yes I know I could cap it, but going into the local GNC as a 19 y/o buying gelcaps earns me dirty looks).

Anyone else that has some interest in potent Piracetam related supplements like Sunifiram or Unifiram please express your interest so that we can see these things come out to the public!

Here is some literature for the lazy http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...4&dopt=Abstract

I think this is as close as I'll get to creaming my pants over a nootropic, in all seriousness though you've really got me thinking about this compound.

Any tests on toxicity done with sunifram? You might want to check that out before you get too gungho about taking it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...earch&DB=pubmed

edit: Search "Sunifiram" and read the few articles available on it.

Check this shit out, impressive. I don't think we have to worry about our testicles like with Nefiracetam.

Sounds like some potent stuff! I wonder why we haven't heard more about sunifiram? It's supposedly way beyond piracetams power.

Because it's not marketed publicly. I found quite a few medical journal abstracts, but I couldn't find a single website claiming to carry this potent material.

Perhaps they figure that since it's so potent, you wouldn't come back to buy more in a long while? Hard to tell...

It seems far more potent than even Pramiracetam, I'd love to read more studies on it though.

All right... time for a reality check.

The reasons I don't think offering sunifiram would be a good idea:

1. It is no doubt patented, and since it is a new pharmaceutical, there is a high likelihood that any company that tries to sell it would get sued ASAP.

2. Potency does not necessarily correlate with maximal activity. Racetam nootropics tend to have bell-shaped dose-response curves. So the question you want answered is not how potent a compound is, but how strong the effect is at the dose which has the maximal effect. For example, some steroids that are considerably more potent on an mg per mg basis are much less desirable in terms of effects. Accordingly, here is a quote from one of the sunifiram studies:

The maximal antiamnesic effect of DM235 was obtained with the dose of 0.001 mg kg–1 i.p. and maintained up to 0.1 mg kg–1 i.p. The DM235-induced antiamnesic effect was of the same intensity as that exerted by the well-known nootropic drugs piracetam (30 mg kg–1 i.p.), aniracetam (100 mg kg–1 p.o.) or rolipram (30 mg kg–1 p.o.) (Fig. 2A and .

3. There are no human studies on this compound. So we know nothing about the toxicity, side effects, or pharmacokinetics in humans. I agree that it is promising, but self-experimentation with drugs like this - especially ones with an active dose of 1 mcg/kg - is dangerous. Not only that, but with a bell-shaped dose response curve, you have to hit a very narrow dosage range to achieve an effect, which is much more difficult if the doses are miniscule. It is possible that even a fraction of a milligram too much could make it so it had no nootropic effect at all.

I have cautious optimism for this compound. If it's pretty soluble then it would not be an issue dosing at 1mcg/kg. This would simply be a matter of dissolving it in a large container of water, or through dilute the dilute further until you have the appropriate concentration and dosage.

As I said before, though, I want to read more studies, especially human studies.

Definitely Pramiracetam powder... I haven't had that in years, it was very expensive, but Wow I never had such motivation from a pill before that wasn't a CNS / jittery stimulant like caff/eph.
Also,
Centrophenoxine its like supercharged DMAE definitely noticable results w or w/o a 'racetam stack
and Idebenone.
I noticed these 2 powders already available on another site.

Damn, there are SOOO many of them!

http://www.bentham.org/sample-issues/cpd8-...gualtiei-ms.htm

So, any thoughts on homebrewing any of the hard-to-impossible to buy ones?

anyone know who manufactures sunifiram

"Indeed, its potency is about 1,000 times higher than that of the most active piracetam-like compounds."

WOW! Let's get this stuff like yesterday!