Your thinking is correct, and I commend you..


However, these designers are not crack and they are not gonna ruin your life.. Just wait til around 26 or so if you decide if ever to take them.

I am over 30 and have never taken any for similar reasons. I do not compete, but there is just no reason for someone my age...in my opinion.. to take them and deal with all the sides.

Im 20, and am thinking about taking Novedex xt or 6 oxo this summer, that should be fine right? since its not actually bringing in test. from an outside source?

hey the 6-oxo/nolvadex/clomid should be able to free up some test. I am not Doctor on this but with what ever limited knowledge i have out of my research i think it will help.

I am going to posting my pics with start and ending info, i am starting a stack of my own
1. Zeuz(test booster)
2. ZMA
3. EStrodex and Nolvadex( not both at the same time but in order)
5.Nitrix oxide by PVL.


This is on top of Protien and a very good organic multivitamin(nutralite Douyble X)

the stack should last me 4-6 weeks..but i will poast every 1 or 2 weeks.

Interesting points of view. However I don´t trust in hormones, They are dangerous, doesn´t matter your age.Foods that heal

(IMG:http://forums.bulknutrition.com/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) OK so i read about all these PHs and im willin to risk the use of them....so where do you buy them since they are banned.....if u do not want to post it send it to

ieatironplates@hotmail.com

i have a question about lg siencces m1d, can it be jousted at the same time with halodrol ??

Rebirth....Previous user of the good medicine, also used prohormones. I am training again and need some assitance. I am 265 kept much of my size from the other stuff that I used, but needing advice on what is out there now that works fairly well. I know everything is banded now, but can I get some help to what I can get to increase strength and harden up a bit.

im 20 years old, so im still a year off from thinking about using pro-hormones, but i got a question. i've always been "late", so to speak, in my development. i hit puberty later than most guys, i lost my baby teeth later, im still growing even at this age. i talked to my doctor about it and he said i would probly keep growing until i was 23. so does this mean i should also put off thinking about pro-hormones until 23 instead of 21?

infertility is one sure side-effect of using PH's at an early age... ACTUALLY NOT really INFERTILITY but BIRTH DEFECTS are a sure thing to happen. (if you deside to have kids later in life... they'll have birth defects for sure).

BUT! Ecdysterone does NOT mess w/ your hormone system... so it's EVEN SAFE FOR TEENAGERS TO USE! but the Turkasterone or whatever ARE NOT safe to use, due to the fact that they DO alter your homone system... & thats where the damage starts.

Just a quick question - Jungle Warfare and 6-oxo is this suitable for someone who is 18?

I know JW contains a pro-steroid.

Well 6-oxo I'm not sure of Doogsy...but Jungle warfare would be a big ol no sir. Even though it's not putting any "outside Test" into your body, it is still changing the natural levels of test and estro production. This is still changing your endocrine hormonal release and for someone who hasn't fully formed their endocrine system, it wouldn't be worth the risk.

Some of the side effects that occur later in life due to endocrine system problems include obesity, thyroid disease, and diabetes. It just doesn't seem worth the trouble of adding a little muscle now and dealing with that when your older. Remember, as you get older, it will become harder and harder to lose excess fat and to keep yourself in good shape (due to your bodies organs not working as well as when you are younger).

Just something to chew on....I couldnt' find anything about 6-OXO though, Check that out....I honestly think it might be ok to use, but DO NOT go off my assumption.

Thanks alot Dude - info assimilated!

Anyone else have any extra info?

This is a great point. If you can not get to 350 on a squat or 300 on a bench you need to look at diet and routine---period!!!!

dude if your 17 dont even think about taking that obvosly you arent going to listen to me and your gonna do what you want but yes it probably stunt your growth and do other things to you like liver problems kidney,heart,high colesteral and dont think it cant hapen to you cause your young i know 15 year olds that have high colesteral my little brothers friend....... look if you gonna take it at an early age at leats wait till your 18 that im not telling you to take it your gonna do what you want but you shoud know when YOU HIT 20 YRS OLD AND YOU REACH A PLATUE AND WANA GET THROUGH IT YOUL PROBABLY BE THAT SIZE FOREVER HENCE IF YOU DONT DO A PROHORMONE WHEN YOU HIT 21,22,23 YOU WILL BE EVEN BIGGER CAUSE YOU DONE STOP GROWING TILL THAT AGE....... YEA YOU STOP GETTING TALLER AT LIKE 18,19 BUT YOUR MUSCLES KEEP GROWING TILL 23 NOW IF YOU DO A PROHORMONE YOUR GONNA THROW THAT ALL AWAY SO DO WHAT YOU WANT SLOW YOUR GROWT PROCESS

i totaly agree

just don't take it, i say.